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People always come in here with the same comment like "my brain memorizes people's faces too! Should that be illegal???" Your brain isn't memorizing billions

People always come in here with the same comment like "my brain memorizes people's faces too! Should that be illegal???" Your brain isn't memorizing billions of people's faces on the scale that Google is. There's a difference. It's a false equivalency.

nova22033 4y ago
Your brain isn't memorizing billions of people's faces on the scale that Google is. There's a difference. It's a false equivalency. Doing things at scale isn't a crime. Can you point out which law google broke?
- weberer 4y ago
  >Google had violated a state consumer protection law that requires companies to inform citizens and get their consent before capturing their biometric identifiers, including fingerprints, voiceprints and a “record of hand or face geometry.” The law in question: https://archive.ph/w9gtb https://archive.ph/w9gtb
  - shadowgovt 4y ago
    It's going to be an interesting case because it can easily be argued that Google captured nothing; they ran post-capture analysis on data captured by individuals for private use. Whether that's relevant to the law is what the courts will have to decide.
crazygringo 4y ago
As long as the data Google is collecting is segregated per-user, then no -- it's not any different. If Google is learning about 10-20 people per account, and that data never gets combined, then what's the problem? Google also processes billions of people's e-mails. But they're segregated per-account. So there's no problem. What makes someone's face any different from an e-mail they send? Again, this lawsuit is not about Google aggregating anything. It's entirely about information that users voluntarily choose to supply, that is used for features desired by those users, and that remains segregated per-account.
- jeremyjh 4y ago
  Do you seriously believe that until the end of time no court can sign a warrant demanding Google search it’s database of photos across all accounts?
googlryas 4y ago
So the argument isn't actually about collecting biometric data, but it is about being really good at collecting biometric data?
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monksy 4y ago
It's also not cooridnating, indexing it, compairing it to others, selling that data, passing it on for blackmail purposes, or law enforcement purposes, etc. Additionally to reproduce the person's overall biometerics it is a very sloppy process and would be unreliable.

nova22033 4y ago

Your brain isn't memorizing billions of people's faces on the scale that Google is. There's a difference. It's a false equivalency. Doing things at scale isn't a crime. Can you point out which law google broke?

weberer 4y ago
>Google had violated a state consumer protection law that requires companies to inform citizens and get their consent before capturing their biometric identifiers, including fingerprints, voiceprints and a “record of hand or face geometry.” The law in question: https://archive.ph/w9gtb https://archive.ph/w9gtb
- shadowgovt 4y ago
  It's going to be an interesting case because it can easily be argued that Google captured nothing; they ran post-capture analysis on data captured by individuals for private use. Whether that's relevant to the law is what the courts will have to decide.

crazygringo 4y ago

As long as the data Google is collecting is segregated per-user, then no -- it's not any different. If Google is learning about 10-20 people per account, and that data never gets combined, then what's the problem? Google also processes billions of people's e-mails. But they're segregated per-account. So there's no problem. What makes someone's face any different from an e-mail they send? Again, this lawsuit is not about Google aggregating anything. It's entirely about information that users voluntarily choose to supply, that is used for features desired by those users, and that remains segregated per-account.

jeremyjh 4y ago
Do you seriously believe that until the end of time no court can sign a warrant demanding Google search it’s database of photos across all accounts?

googlryas 4y ago

So the argument isn't actually about collecting biometric data, but it is about being really good at collecting biometric data?

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monksy 4y ago

It's also not cooridnating, indexing it, compairing it to others, selling that data, passing it on for blackmail purposes, or law enforcement purposes, etc. Additionally to reproduce the person's overall biometerics it is a very sloppy process and would be unreliable.