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iOS has terrible discoverability Absolutely. I really don't understand how people think that making controls invisible is in any way useful, or user-friendly.

iOS has terrible discoverability Absolutely. I really don't understand how people think that making controls invisible is in any way useful, or user-friendly. To me, the worst is "We just showed you this big screen of options. But we're not going to show you that you can search the options if you drag the screen downward to reveal a search bar. But you wouldn't think to do that anyway, because pulling down on a screen is the Refresh function in other places." you'd think Apple could afford to release a detailed manual It does: https://books.apple.com/book/id6443146864 https://books.apple.com/book/id6443146864 but once you've figured out what all the icons and gestures mean and do, it's fluid Yep. How to do something in iOS n is not how to do something in iOS n+1. By the time you read through Apple's 74 page manual, you have a new version of iOS and have to start over again. I'd rather spend time with my cat and my family than re-learn every piece of tech from every giant tech company over and over again.

samatman 4y ago
> It does: https://books.apple.com/book/id6443146864 https://books.apple.com/book/id6443146864 I wish I was joking: my first iPhone was a 4, and you're telling me this for the first time. Did I mention that discoverability is terrible? I'm sure that URL was printed in tiny gray text on that tiny piece of paper you always throw away first... On the bright side, I'm going to read it. Thanks.
- reaperducer 4y ago
  I'm sure that URL was printed in tiny gray text on that tiny piece of paper you always throw away first You are correct. That's exactly where it is. Or maybe was. Because I don't remember seeing it this time with the latest phone. Maybe it's not even there now. Maybe it's in the Tips app now. It used to be available as a PDF, but I could only find it in Apple Books.
- SllX 4y ago
  > Did I mention that discoverability is terrible? Apple does also include the Tips app, with notifications for it turned on by default. In previous iterations if you read all the tips for your new phone, it would point you to the iPhone User Guide; now it’s just at the bottom if you scroll all the way down and you don’t have to read it in Apple Books anymore. iPhones have a lot of new features every year, so I find it helpful to go through the Tips app at least once every new OS release and also every phone purchase and I usually learn a couple of new things by doing so.
bantunes 4y ago
It's Apple-think. I showed someone I know (who used to work at Apple) my SailfishOS phone, and this was before iOS added gestures to manage apps. SailfishOS had those "pull down to minimize" and so on gestures before iOS, and when he tried them out he said they were terrible UX because they were hard to discover. As soon as iOS added them, they were the future of mobile UIs.
- pram 4y ago
  The whole flicking 'cards' to manage apps thing was from WebOS.
  - indymike 4y ago
    Flicking cards was the absolute best part of webos. It was irrationally entertaining.
    - 0x445442 4y ago
      What made it great was the Palm Pre’s size made it so ergonomic to hold the phone one handed and manipulate the cards with the thumb.

samatman 4y ago

> It does: https://books.apple.com/book/id6443146864 https://books.apple.com/book/id6443146864 I wish I was joking: my first iPhone was a 4, and you're telling me this for the first time. Did I mention that discoverability is terrible? I'm sure that URL was printed in tiny gray text on that tiny piece of paper you always throw away first... On the bright side, I'm going to read it. Thanks.

reaperducer 4y ago
I'm sure that URL was printed in tiny gray text on that tiny piece of paper you always throw away first You are correct. That's exactly where it is. Or maybe was. Because I don't remember seeing it this time with the latest phone. Maybe it's not even there now. Maybe it's in the Tips app now. It used to be available as a PDF, but I could only find it in Apple Books.
SllX 4y ago
> Did I mention that discoverability is terrible? Apple does also include the Tips app, with notifications for it turned on by default. In previous iterations if you read all the tips for your new phone, it would point you to the iPhone User Guide; now it’s just at the bottom if you scroll all the way down and you don’t have to read it in Apple Books anymore. iPhones have a lot of new features every year, so I find it helpful to go through the Tips app at least once every new OS release and also every phone purchase and I usually learn a couple of new things by doing so.

bantunes 4y ago

It's Apple-think. I showed someone I know (who used to work at Apple) my SailfishOS phone, and this was before iOS added gestures to manage apps. SailfishOS had those "pull down to minimize" and so on gestures before iOS, and when he tried them out he said they were terrible UX because they were hard to discover. As soon as iOS added them, they were the future of mobile UIs.

pram 4y ago
The whole flicking 'cards' to manage apps thing was from WebOS.
- indymike 4y ago
  Flicking cards was the absolute best part of webos. It was irrationally entertaining.
  - 0x445442 4y ago
    What made it great was the Palm Pre’s size made it so ergonomic to hold the phone one handed and manipulate the cards with the thumb.