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Yea helping country invaded by barbarians that destroy whole cities, rape and kill civilians les masses also openly speak about using nukes is same as destroyin

Yea helping country invaded by barbarians that destroy whole cities, rape and kill civilians les masses also openly speak about using nukes is same as destroying government elected in fair election (vatnik-meme.jpg). Russia was attacking west for past 10+years on the cyber-front they even blew up few ammo depos in Central Europe (European Union and NATO countries), assassinate people living in UK without consequences, they were corrupting German politicians with Gasprom money, they were killing opposition inside and outside their country for past 10+ years. They are barbarian nation and should be stopped and that was common knowledge for everyone living in Central/Eastern Europe and post USSR central asian countries for decades. It's good that US and West wake up and I'm hoping Russia can get proper XX/XXI century leap in mentality sooner then later cause they definitely stopped growing as society about 1960. (or they can go all in and get destroyed in conventional war vs NATO both options seems good for everyone that isn't Russian oligarch)

maweki 4y ago
I'd be wary about "Russia was attacking west for past 10+years on the cyber-front". Attribution is difficult enough as it is, but we only ever hear "trust us, we know" from the same people who said the same thing about WMDs in Iraq.
- machinekob 4y ago
  Russia was actively testing and attacking key infrastructure in Central Europe (NATO countries) for at least past 8 years and they aren't hiding it in Poland they even leak whole e-mail history of one of the ministers 2 years ago and laugh at it publicly (and indeed it was funny what they were writting), they attack key infrastructure in baltic countries at least once per year so we can trust 10+ countries that are in NATO at confirm it was Russia or believe in some grand conspiracy to destroy last moral country on earth that is Vatniks-heaven. Its not "trust us" it is facts not even speaking about troll farms destroying social media for past 7/8+ years (and possibly 2016 US election)
- qaq 4y ago
  Attribution is done by Mandiant's and CrowdStrikes of this world so not really same people.
- pencilguin 4y ago
  BellingCat has established direct responsibility by FSB employees in numerous operations.
  - fit2rule 4y ago

maweki 4y ago

I'd be wary about "Russia was attacking west for past 10+years on the cyber-front". Attribution is difficult enough as it is, but we only ever hear "trust us, we know" from the same people who said the same thing about WMDs in Iraq.

machinekob 4y ago
Russia was actively testing and attacking key infrastructure in Central Europe (NATO countries) for at least past 8 years and they aren't hiding it in Poland they even leak whole e-mail history of one of the ministers 2 years ago and laugh at it publicly (and indeed it was funny what they were writting), they attack key infrastructure in baltic countries at least once per year so we can trust 10+ countries that are in NATO at confirm it was Russia or believe in some grand conspiracy to destroy last moral country on earth that is Vatniks-heaven. Its not "trust us" it is facts not even speaking about troll farms destroying social media for past 7/8+ years (and possibly 2016 US election)
qaq 4y ago
Attribution is done by Mandiant's and CrowdStrikes of this world so not really same people.
pencilguin 4y ago
BellingCat has established direct responsibility by FSB employees in numerous operations.
- fit2rule 4y ago