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The real issue is that Indian tech companies want to be able to bundle their crap with Android phones and still take advantage of the Google phone/Android brand

The real issue is that Indian tech companies want to be able to bundle their crap with Android phones and still take advantage of the Google phone/Android brand. They're welcome to sell forks and bundle all the alternative software they want with whatever store they want, they just can't call it an Android phone or call themselves an Android manufacturer. What Google requires of OEMs has been known for a long time and isn't a secret. And as I already pointed out, companies like Huawei and others successfully sell Android forks with alternative stores and apps.

enragedcacti 4y ago
> What Google requires of OEMs has been known for a long time and isn't a secret. They aren't being fined for keeping secrets. > Huawei and others successfully sell Android forks with alternative stores and apps. If it takes a 1 billion person market with no access to Google services and multiple gigantic partially state-owned companies (Baidu, Huawei, and Tencent at least) to create a competitor that's only viable in that one market, I would argue that it's good evidence India is on the right track here saying that Google has market dominance.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  yeah, in india, google HAS monopoly. iphones are TOO expensive for the masses. you can buy 12 moto phones or xiaomi phones instead of a single iphone.
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  > that Google has market dominance. Having market dominance isn't illegal. Abusing it is. Google only has stipulations that, if you want to call your device a Google or Android device, you need to have the Play store and a few key services. Anyone can fork Android, put in their own app store, all their own apps, whatever. Indian tech companies need to either fork and come up with their own eco-system or play by the rules. Not lobby their corrupt government to try to force Google into allowing their crapware and do their marketing for them...
  - programmer_dude 4y ago
    Why would you assume the private sector is corruption free? It seems not playing fair is a fundamental rule of the business game.

enragedcacti 4y ago

> What Google requires of OEMs has been known for a long time and isn't a secret. They aren't being fined for keeping secrets. > Huawei and others successfully sell Android forks with alternative stores and apps. If it takes a 1 billion person market with no access to Google services and multiple gigantic partially state-owned companies (Baidu, Huawei, and Tencent at least) to create a competitor that's only viable in that one market, I would argue that it's good evidence India is on the right track here saying that Google has market dominance.

2Gkashmiri 4y ago
yeah, in india, google HAS monopoly. iphones are TOO expensive for the masses. you can buy 12 moto phones or xiaomi phones instead of a single iphone.
Mikeb85 4y ago
> that Google has market dominance. Having market dominance isn't illegal. Abusing it is. Google only has stipulations that, if you want to call your device a Google or Android device, you need to have the Play store and a few key services. Anyone can fork Android, put in their own app store, all their own apps, whatever. Indian tech companies need to either fork and come up with their own eco-system or play by the rules. Not lobby their corrupt government to try to force Google into allowing their crapware and do their marketing for them...
- programmer_dude 4y ago
  Why would you assume the private sector is corruption free? It seems not playing fair is a fundamental rule of the business game.