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Wages need to double, just like everything else has. A new house costs a million, yet some people are forced to strike to get a $3 wage increase.

astrange 4y ago
By a new house do you mean "a new house on land you own", "an old house and the land it's on", or "a new house and the land it's on"?
- dukeofdoom 4y ago
  new house on a new lot in Ontario even in smaller communities now goes for 1 million. Small lot with, a normal house, two car garage, standard obs construction. New house will often require tons of additional finishing after purchase. With interest it's actually 2 million to pay off. While many professional people, like educational support workers are still stuck in the 50k a year pay bracket for the last decade are getting offered tiny raises in pennies
midoridensha 4y ago
>A new house costs a million This is what you get for having a car-based society with no walkability and so much wasted space. The chickens are coming home to roost and it's time for you to pay the piper.
- dukeofdoom 4y ago
  wouldn't you assume by spreading out it costs less to build since more land can be used for building. the increase is actually exponentially more land... pie r squared.
  - midoridensha 4y ago
    No, because not all land is desirable. You can save money by moving 500km away to an uninhabited place, but now you have a full-day commute in each direction, so you can't go to work any more. How is that useful? People live close together because there's physical benefits to doing so, and the more you spread out, the more travel time increases. And because of the 2-dimensional nature of roads, you get a greater-than-linear increase in travel times as the city expands because of gridlock. You're also assuming there's lots of land in places that people want to live. There's plenty of empty land in the frozen tundra, but no one in their right mind wants to live in places like that. The places that have nice weather where people like to live also happen to be the places that are best for growing food.

astrange 4y ago

By a new house do you mean "a new house on land you own", "an old house and the land it's on", or "a new house and the land it's on"?

dukeofdoom 4y ago
new house on a new lot in Ontario even in smaller communities now goes for 1 million. Small lot with, a normal house, two car garage, standard obs construction. New house will often require tons of additional finishing after purchase. With interest it's actually 2 million to pay off. While many professional people, like educational support workers are still stuck in the 50k a year pay bracket for the last decade are getting offered tiny raises in pennies

midoridensha 4y ago

>A new house costs a million This is what you get for having a car-based society with no walkability and so much wasted space. The chickens are coming home to roost and it's time for you to pay the piper.

dukeofdoom 4y ago
wouldn't you assume by spreading out it costs less to build since more land can be used for building. the increase is actually exponentially more land... pie r squared.
- midoridensha 4y ago
  No, because not all land is desirable. You can save money by moving 500km away to an uninhabited place, but now you have a full-day commute in each direction, so you can't go to work any more. How is that useful? People live close together because there's physical benefits to doing so, and the more you spread out, the more travel time increases. And because of the 2-dimensional nature of roads, you get a greater-than-linear increase in travel times as the city expands because of gridlock. You're also assuming there's lots of land in places that people want to live. There's plenty of empty land in the frozen tundra, but no one in their right mind wants to live in places like that. The places that have nice weather where people like to live also happen to be the places that are best for growing food.