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This is total nonsense. Wealthy professionals regularly get away with much more egregious thefts than petty shoplifting, the police do a lot more harassment of

This is total nonsense. Wealthy professionals regularly get away with much more egregious thefts than petty shoplifting, the police do a lot more harassment of poor people than rich people, and lack of response to shoplifting is not about race.

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steve76 4y ago
junofan 4y ago
What’s lack of response to shoplifting about? I would like it to end.
- hattmall 4y ago
  Resources, risk v reward. Unless you go with something like broken window theory and wish to use shoplifting to ultimately deter more serious crimes, it's not worth enforcing via government action. If you want to know where shop lifting is taken seriously, it's Walmart. If you steal from Walmart, they know it, they know who you are and it goes in your file. They will bust you at a felony amount level with all the evidence documented and wait until you are somewhere in a jurisdiction they know will prosecute. They will trespass you and have their LPs hold you and the off duty cop they employ transport you.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    "to ultimately deter more serious crimes" I'd say it's pretty serious when it's to the point that places are going our of business because of it. Any business can expect some shrinkage, but when that number surpasses rhe already low margins in most industries...
  - dahfizz 4y ago
    Good. It's pathetic that private companies have to take the law into their own hands. Thiefs should go to jail. Crime is bad for society.
  - junofan 4y ago
    There are no Walmarts in SF. I would love to see that approach in SF.
    - pclmulqdq 4y ago
      There's a reason there are no Walmarts in SF.
pclmulqdq 4y ago
What thefts do software engineers regularly get away with? I've never heard of a software engineer committing wage theft, for example. I'm not saying that police should hassle someone for sleeping on the street. I'm saying they should arrest people for stealing stuff. That's not harassment. That's justice.
- CydeWeys 4y ago
  Huh? You don't even know what wage theft is.
  - pclmulqdq 4y ago
    I do know what wage theft is, and I am well aware that software engineers aren't generally in a position to do it. The people who commit most of the wage theft are small business owners (who have employees to steal wages from), who are usually poorer than software engineers. Wage theft is the go-to example of people who say "shoplifting doesn't hold a candle to the thefts the rich do," so I was preempting that argument.

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steve76 4y ago

junofan 4y ago

What’s lack of response to shoplifting about? I would like it to end.

hattmall 4y ago
Resources, risk v reward. Unless you go with something like broken window theory and wish to use shoplifting to ultimately deter more serious crimes, it's not worth enforcing via government action. If you want to know where shop lifting is taken seriously, it's Walmart. If you steal from Walmart, they know it, they know who you are and it goes in your file. They will bust you at a felony amount level with all the evidence documented and wait until you are somewhere in a jurisdiction they know will prosecute. They will trespass you and have their LPs hold you and the off duty cop they employ transport you.
- giantg2 4y ago
  "to ultimately deter more serious crimes" I'd say it's pretty serious when it's to the point that places are going our of business because of it. Any business can expect some shrinkage, but when that number surpasses rhe already low margins in most industries...
- dahfizz 4y ago
  Good. It's pathetic that private companies have to take the law into their own hands. Thiefs should go to jail. Crime is bad for society.
- junofan 4y ago
  There are no Walmarts in SF. I would love to see that approach in SF.
  - pclmulqdq 4y ago
    There's a reason there are no Walmarts in SF.

pclmulqdq 4y ago

What thefts do software engineers regularly get away with? I've never heard of a software engineer committing wage theft, for example. I'm not saying that police should hassle someone for sleeping on the street. I'm saying they should arrest people for stealing stuff. That's not harassment. That's justice.

CydeWeys 4y ago
Huh? You don't even know what wage theft is.
- pclmulqdq 4y ago
  I do know what wage theft is, and I am well aware that software engineers aren't generally in a position to do it. The people who commit most of the wage theft are small business owners (who have employees to steal wages from), who are usually poorer than software engineers. Wage theft is the go-to example of people who say "shoplifting doesn't hold a candle to the thefts the rich do," so I was preempting that argument.