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The Mayor of San Francisco appointed a tough-on-crime prosecutor who has spoken in public in favor of reviving failed policies like the war on drugs, purged emp

The Mayor of San Francisco appointed a tough-on-crime prosecutor who has spoken in public in favor of reviving failed policies like the war on drugs, purged employees hired by her progressive predecessor, and canceled investigations into police misconduct. You already have the most reactionary, cuff-em-and-stuff-em prosecutor you’re likely to get in San Francisco. So if crime is still a problem, you’re going to have to come up with a new excuse.

mbgerring 4y ago
Also, SFPD’s budget was not cut in the wake of protests against police violence. There was no defunding of police in San Francisco. You can’t blame their inaction on policies that were not implemented here.
- egberts1 4y ago
  Ummm, SF voters voted to make their police force "SMALLER"! https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/21537593/san-francisco-proposition-e-police-staffing-results https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/21537593/san-francisco-proposi...
  - mbgerring 4y ago
    No, we voted to give the city the authority to reduce the size of the police force. They haven’t actually used that authority. Nor have they reduce the police budget.
    - egberts1 4y ago
      You sure? https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-02/SFPDStaffingStudyReport20210304.pdf https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-...
  - camdat 4y ago
    Did you even read the article? They weren't meeting these numbers for a long time. >The proposition also requires San Francisco to end a requirement that there be a specified number of full-duty sworn police officers assigned to neighborhood policing and patrol — a number law enforcement officials say has never been met due to resource constraints.
    - egberts1 4y ago
      Yea, I did. Down from 2398 in 2021. Voter capped SPO at 1,971. https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-02/SFPDStaffingStudyReport20210304.pdf https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-...
mc32 4y ago
As I point out downthread, it will take time for this to manifest. Compare and Contrast Daly City/San Mateo county. It's not like the USSR where you bring in a show team to convict and send everyone to the Gulags overnight and instill fear through marxist means. No, this takes time and effort to turn around. From Koch to Dinkins to Giuliani --it takes time to tamp down crime. For things to straighten out support for rule-of-law has to manifest from bottom to top and back. From Citizens, to Public Figures, to Influencers, to Representatives, to Captains, to Prosecutors, DAs and the Mayor. We have some of that. You can't have situations where the police try to arrest someone and you get a mob questioning police motives and then complain when the police don't come.
- mbgerring 4y ago
  - mc32 4y ago
    What mistake, you think the DA snaps her fingers and the system self-heals and self assembles? Even in private enterprise a bad CEO can take years to recover from, here we're taking government --so you're going to have to wait some time for results.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      But some of your assertions of the underlying issue (eg the police being defunded) lack a factual foundation. You're lecturing us about the correct solution to a fictional problem.
- mbgerring 4y ago
  That’s crazy, I actually show up every morning to do my job without the Mayor personally telling me that I’m brave and handsome every day. There’s a fair amount of stickers outside my apartment that say things like “Die Techie Scum,” and yet, I keep showing up for work to do the job I get paid to do. Maybe we should find some cops who are capable of doing the job they’re paid to do, instead of insisting on a wholesale cultural revolution to protect their fragile egos at all costs.
whyenot 4y ago
Chesa left office in early July. That's only a little over 3 months ago. If the situation hasn't improved in a year or two, you would have a point. Right now, it looks more like you are bending the facts to fit a particular political agenda.
LegitShady 4y ago
The district attorney until last July was a very progressive opposite of tough on crime prosecutor named Chesa Boudin. In july he lost a recall election, and Breed appointed Brooke Jenkins who was also previously a DA but quit to support the recall election of Boudin. Jenkins has to run for the position in November - currently she's only serving the rest of Boudin's term. So the 'tough on crime' stuff is very new, at the speed the courts move. As for the police, the people said they hate the police and the police heard them loud and clear, and are leaving on their own. For the same reasons, far fewer people are interested in joining their police force. Why be a police officer in a place that hates you? https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/san-francisco-grapples-drastic-drop-police-recruits/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/san-francisco-grap... https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-department-shortage-staffing-sfpd-chief-william-scott/12094352/ https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-department-shortag...

mbgerring 4y ago

Also, SFPD’s budget was not cut in the wake of protests against police violence. There was no defunding of police in San Francisco. You can’t blame their inaction on policies that were not implemented here.

egberts1 4y ago
Ummm, SF voters voted to make their police force "SMALLER"! https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/21537593/san-francisco-proposition-e-police-staffing-results https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/21537593/san-francisco-proposi...
- mbgerring 4y ago
  No, we voted to give the city the authority to reduce the size of the police force. They haven’t actually used that authority. Nor have they reduce the police budget.
  - egberts1 4y ago
    You sure? https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-02/SFPDStaffingStudyReport20210304.pdf https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-...
- camdat 4y ago
  Did you even read the article? They weren't meeting these numbers for a long time. >The proposition also requires San Francisco to end a requirement that there be a specified number of full-duty sworn police officers assigned to neighborhood policing and patrol — a number law enforcement officials say has never been met due to resource constraints.
  - egberts1 4y ago
    Yea, I did. Down from 2398 in 2021. Voter capped SPO at 1,971. https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-02/SFPDStaffingStudyReport20210304.pdf https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/2021-...

mc32 4y ago

As I point out downthread, it will take time for this to manifest. Compare and Contrast Daly City/San Mateo county. It's not like the USSR where you bring in a show team to convict and send everyone to the Gulags overnight and instill fear through marxist means. No, this takes time and effort to turn around. From Koch to Dinkins to Giuliani --it takes time to tamp down crime. For things to straighten out support for rule-of-law has to manifest from bottom to top and back. From Citizens, to Public Figures, to Influencers, to Representatives, to Captains, to Prosecutors, DAs and the Mayor. We have some of that. You can't have situations where the police try to arrest someone and you get a mob questioning police motives and then complain when the police don't come.

mbgerring 4y ago
- mc32 4y ago
  What mistake, you think the DA snaps her fingers and the system self-heals and self assembles? Even in private enterprise a bad CEO can take years to recover from, here we're taking government --so you're going to have to wait some time for results.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    But some of your assertions of the underlying issue (eg the police being defunded) lack a factual foundation. You're lecturing us about the correct solution to a fictional problem.
mbgerring 4y ago
That’s crazy, I actually show up every morning to do my job without the Mayor personally telling me that I’m brave and handsome every day. There’s a fair amount of stickers outside my apartment that say things like “Die Techie Scum,” and yet, I keep showing up for work to do the job I get paid to do. Maybe we should find some cops who are capable of doing the job they’re paid to do, instead of insisting on a wholesale cultural revolution to protect their fragile egos at all costs.

whyenot 4y ago

Chesa left office in early July. That's only a little over 3 months ago. If the situation hasn't improved in a year or two, you would have a point. Right now, it looks more like you are bending the facts to fit a particular political agenda.

LegitShady 4y ago

The district attorney until last July was a very progressive opposite of tough on crime prosecutor named Chesa Boudin. In july he lost a recall election, and Breed appointed Brooke Jenkins who was also previously a DA but quit to support the recall election of Boudin. Jenkins has to run for the position in November - currently she's only serving the rest of Boudin's term. So the 'tough on crime' stuff is very new, at the speed the courts move. As for the police, the people said they hate the police and the police heard them loud and clear, and are leaving on their own. For the same reasons, far fewer people are interested in joining their police force. Why be a police officer in a place that hates you? https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/san-francisco-grapples-drastic-drop-police-recruits/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/san-francisco-grap... https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-department-shortage-staffing-sfpd-chief-william-scott/12094352/ https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-department-shortag...