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Walking around (nearly any part of) San Francisco day or night with a toddler is no problem at all, but don’t leave a backpack sitting on your car’s passenger s

Walking around (nearly any part of) San Francisco day or night with a toddler is no problem at all, but don’t leave a backpack sitting on your car’s passenger seat if you don’t want your window smashed. The problem is property crimes not violent crime. One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything, and more or less laugh at you if you ask for their help.

koolba 4y ago
> One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything. Isn’t this a direct effect of the DA refusing to prosecute? What’s the point of police getting involved if the crime isn’t even considered a crime by the prosecutor?
- cammikebrown 4y ago
  No, the cops didn’t suddenly magically change after Boudin was elected (and recalled). They don’t care.
- jacobolus 4y ago
  In my opinion blaming the DA was always a lazy excuse. Now that he has been recalled in favor of a “tough” replacement who fired all of the progressive city prosecutors, how do you explain their continuing non-responsiveness? Recently my plumber neighbors had their truck stolen with their tools in it and told the police precisely where it was but the police wouldn’t do anything, so my neighbors found the thief and beat him up. The police came to ask why there was a fist fight in the middle of the sidewalk. The thief ran away, so the police shrugged and left.
  - ratsmack 4y ago
    >Now that he has been recalled in favor of a “tough” replacement... That was in June of this year. Do you really believe that the change will happen that fast?
    - jacobolus 4y ago
      There has not been and I do not believe there will be any appreciable change in police behavior any time in the foreseeable future, without a much more significant reform effort. They’ve been unresponsive to property crime for many years. They started blaming Boudin for their unresponsiveness before he was even elected, and they’ll still be blaming him for their unresponsiveness long into the future.
  - StanislavPetrov 4y ago
    >Recently my plumber neighbors had their truck stolen with their tools in it and told the police precisely where it was but the police wouldn’t do anything, so my neighbors found the thief and beat him up. The police came to ask why there was a fist fight in the middle of the sidewalk. The thief ran away, so the police shrugged and left. How much of this is a consequence of prosecutors and judges who don't jail thieves or people who commit assaults? I'm not fan of the police, but what is the point of arresting people and giving them a ride to the police station only to be released back onto the street?
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  No. The DA was only there for two years and this level of police incompetence has been a fixture of the city for at least the past 15.
- blululu 4y ago
  Probably didn’t help matters but no the police have been garbage for longer than he was the DA.
- sagarm 4y ago
  Before Chesa they blamed Prop 47. There's always some excuse.
zdragnar 4y ago
> SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything, and more or less laugh at you if you ask for their help That's rather uncharitable given the sheer volume of property crime facing the city. Literally hundreds of calls a day... while in 2020 the mayor bragged about cutting the police funding by $120 million and moving it to other organizations. It has since been restored (I think?). Even a B-corp with a very liberal owner couldn't take it anymore when their windows were broken 5 times and organized theft groups raided the store on a regular basis (posted 2 days ago): https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davismsmith_its-sad-but-san-francisco-appears-to-have-activity-6988177773722841088-Yd3Q/ https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davismsmith_its-sad-but-san-f...
- jacobolus 4y ago
  The mayor bragged about that, but did not ever actually do it.

koolba 4y ago

> One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything. Isn’t this a direct effect of the DA refusing to prosecute? What’s the point of police getting involved if the crime isn’t even considered a crime by the prosecutor?

cammikebrown 4y ago
No, the cops didn’t suddenly magically change after Boudin was elected (and recalled). They don’t care.
jacobolus 4y ago
In my opinion blaming the DA was always a lazy excuse. Now that he has been recalled in favor of a “tough” replacement who fired all of the progressive city prosecutors, how do you explain their continuing non-responsiveness? Recently my plumber neighbors had their truck stolen with their tools in it and told the police precisely where it was but the police wouldn’t do anything, so my neighbors found the thief and beat him up. The police came to ask why there was a fist fight in the middle of the sidewalk. The thief ran away, so the police shrugged and left.
- ratsmack 4y ago
  >Now that he has been recalled in favor of a “tough” replacement... That was in June of this year. Do you really believe that the change will happen that fast?
  - jacobolus 4y ago
    There has not been and I do not believe there will be any appreciable change in police behavior any time in the foreseeable future, without a much more significant reform effort. They’ve been unresponsive to property crime for many years. They started blaming Boudin for their unresponsiveness before he was even elected, and they’ll still be blaming him for their unresponsiveness long into the future.
- StanislavPetrov 4y ago
  >Recently my plumber neighbors had their truck stolen with their tools in it and told the police precisely where it was but the police wouldn’t do anything, so my neighbors found the thief and beat him up. The police came to ask why there was a fist fight in the middle of the sidewalk. The thief ran away, so the police shrugged and left. How much of this is a consequence of prosecutors and judges who don't jail thieves or people who commit assaults? I'm not fan of the police, but what is the point of arresting people and giving them a ride to the police station only to be released back onto the street?
mikeyouse 4y ago
No. The DA was only there for two years and this level of police incompetence has been a fixture of the city for at least the past 15.
blululu 4y ago
Probably didn’t help matters but no the police have been garbage for longer than he was the DA.
sagarm 4y ago
Before Chesa they blamed Prop 47. There's always some excuse.

zdragnar 4y ago

> SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything, and more or less laugh at you if you ask for their help That's rather uncharitable given the sheer volume of property crime facing the city. Literally hundreds of calls a day... while in 2020 the mayor bragged about cutting the police funding by $120 million and moving it to other organizations. It has since been restored (I think?). Even a B-corp with a very liberal owner couldn't take it anymore when their windows were broken 5 times and organized theft groups raided the store on a regular basis (posted 2 days ago): https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davismsmith_its-sad-but-san-francisco-appears-to-have-activity-6988177773722841088-Yd3Q/ https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davismsmith_its-sad-but-san-f...

jacobolus 4y ago
The mayor bragged about that, but did not ever actually do it.