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Why is everything “better” or “worse”. City vs. City. This is such a lame argument and only feeds whoever is seeking validation that they live in right place

iinnPP 4y ago
Between myself and ~20 people I know well I have never heard of anyone having their car broken into, nor any packages stolen. This is a medium size Canadian city. I leave my packages outside overnight without issue.
- jimz 4y ago
  I do the same in Las Vegas, "sin city" moniker and all. I lived in Boston, NYC, LA, Montreal, and Spokane. I had two bikes stolen while I was working at the county public defender's and my girlfriend called the police, filed out a report, and nothing ever came down the line on the other side. The officer tried to talk her out of filing the report. Since I've worked in other jurisdictions and have heard broadly about how few fucks are given about property crimes generally, we don't even know how high or low this figure is in comparison to other cities with different policies. It could very well be true that people are experiencing recency bias, triggered by a question that touches upon something that wasn't taken seriously to begin with. Also, I live in Las Vegas now and I also don't know anyone who had their car broken into or packages stolen. I left my Steam Deck outside for 48 hours since it was delivered early and hidden poorly, but I wasn't looking and didn't even notice it. But since none of the polls - the Chronicle or the Standard's - mention vehicle prowling, we have even less data on that. Why even bring it up? Nobody was expecting Rumble in the Bronx (great movie in spite of the whole movie being made up of stereotypes).
dpe82 4y ago
It's personal preference but (to pick an example) many other large cities in the US have both lower crime and lower cost of living. For some folks those attributes weigh heavily in the mix of things they think make a city "good". Other people have other preferences. I live in SF, but I absolutely understand why many people think other places are better for them.
gretch 4y ago
I think your take is more outrageous: that things aren’t better or worse than other things? Flint Michigan is really really bad. Their water is poisonous. Similarly, crime is a thing that hurts ppl, in this case theft in SF. How are we gonna sit around and pretend that some cities are not better than others?
BoorishBears 4y ago
I agree to a point. You can't say LA is better than NYC. You can't say London is better than Tokyo. It all depends. But sometimes this is like comparing a little league team to an MLB team: For example, you can say NYC is better than SF. For every axis that SF is better on, NYC is 10x better on 10 others. Like you could argue the foggy weather is better because there's no snow... but then: food, transportation, global importance, crime (even when you account for violent crime specifically), long-term prospects... SF can't even keep a Target open past 8. At the start of the year I moved to SF from NYC, so I'm not validating anything by the way.
dymk 4y ago
What argument? You seem to be the only one here looking to pick some pointless fight.

iinnPP 4y ago

Between myself and ~20 people I know well I have never heard of anyone having their car broken into, nor any packages stolen. This is a medium size Canadian city. I leave my packages outside overnight without issue.

jimz 4y ago
I do the same in Las Vegas, "sin city" moniker and all. I lived in Boston, NYC, LA, Montreal, and Spokane. I had two bikes stolen while I was working at the county public defender's and my girlfriend called the police, filed out a report, and nothing ever came down the line on the other side. The officer tried to talk her out of filing the report. Since I've worked in other jurisdictions and have heard broadly about how few fucks are given about property crimes generally, we don't even know how high or low this figure is in comparison to other cities with different policies. It could very well be true that people are experiencing recency bias, triggered by a question that touches upon something that wasn't taken seriously to begin with. Also, I live in Las Vegas now and I also don't know anyone who had their car broken into or packages stolen. I left my Steam Deck outside for 48 hours since it was delivered early and hidden poorly, but I wasn't looking and didn't even notice it. But since none of the polls - the Chronicle or the Standard's - mention vehicle prowling, we have even less data on that. Why even bring it up? Nobody was expecting Rumble in the Bronx (great movie in spite of the whole movie being made up of stereotypes).

dpe82 4y ago

It's personal preference but (to pick an example) many other large cities in the US have both lower crime and lower cost of living. For some folks those attributes weigh heavily in the mix of things they think make a city "good". Other people have other preferences. I live in SF, but I absolutely understand why many people think other places are better for them.

gretch 4y ago

I think your take is more outrageous: that things aren’t better or worse than other things? Flint Michigan is really really bad. Their water is poisonous. Similarly, crime is a thing that hurts ppl, in this case theft in SF. How are we gonna sit around and pretend that some cities are not better than others?

BoorishBears 4y ago

I agree to a point. You can't say LA is better than NYC. You can't say London is better than Tokyo. It all depends. But sometimes this is like comparing a little league team to an MLB team: For example, you can say NYC is better than SF. For every axis that SF is better on, NYC is 10x better on 10 others. Like you could argue the foggy weather is better because there's no snow... but then: food, transportation, global importance, crime (even when you account for violent crime specifically), long-term prospects... SF can't even keep a Target open past 8. At the start of the year I moved to SF from NYC, so I'm not validating anything by the way.

dymk 4y ago

What argument? You seem to be the only one here looking to pick some pointless fight.