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I am citing myself as i’ve been there for a while and its absolutely horrible.

danuker 4y ago
Google public transport directions show me it's 2x as slower than cars, but 4x faster than walking from the airport to Sargada Familia. In my city in Romania, public transport is about the same speed as walking. So I'd say Barcelona has great public transport, based on this limited analysis. Hence, citations neede. What exactly was bad? Did you only try driving?
- yrgulation 4y ago
  I mean compared to romania, particularly to poorly managed cities such as cluj napoca indeed barceona’s public transport is a blessing. But unfortunately locals dont commute to sagrada familia on a daily basis. Commuting to and from el prat or other office areas is a nightmare, as is reaching to smaller businesses around town. Pulling out stats without actually having been there is misleading as you risk thinking everyone is a tourist taking trains to attractions on the regular, which is what most public transport was designed for - its basically their economy so naturally it will be biased towards that.
  - danuker 4y ago
    Fair point. From El Prat to where, do you think would be a fair analysis?
  - RobertoG 4y ago
    El Prat is not Barcelona, and, still, you have train, metro, public and private bus as an option to arrive from downtown. The idea that public transport has been designed for tourists is preposterous. The network of public transport extend far away from the touristic places. Most tourist, and most expats in my experience (I'm thinking in those that don't bother to learn any local language), stay in three or four neighborhoods and think that that's the city and get their impressions from those few areas. That's the reason you always hear the same histories: pickpockets (stealing from tourists), dirty (drunk tourist peeing in the streets), etc
- midoridensha 4y ago
  >Google public transport directions show me it's 2x as slower than cars, but 4x faster than walking from the airport to Sargada Familia. ... So I'd say Barcelona has great public transport, based on this limited analysis. That doesn't sound all that great to me. Here in Tokyo, driving is generally not significantly faster than public transit, though of course it can vary a lot depending on your two endpoints. And of course, if you add in time to find parking, that usually makes driving very unattractive (though this doesn't affect taxis of course, so those can be attractive for some routes if you have tons of money you want to waste because they're not cheap).

Google public transport directions show me it's 2x as slower than cars, but 4x faster than walking from the airport to Sargada Familia. In my city in Romania, public transport is about the same speed as walking. So I'd say Barcelona has great public transport, based on this limited analysis. Hence, citations neede. What exactly was bad? Did you only try driving?

yrgulation 4y ago
I mean compared to romania, particularly to poorly managed cities such as cluj napoca indeed barceona’s public transport is a blessing. But unfortunately locals dont commute to sagrada familia on a daily basis. Commuting to and from el prat or other office areas is a nightmare, as is reaching to smaller businesses around town. Pulling out stats without actually having been there is misleading as you risk thinking everyone is a tourist taking trains to attractions on the regular, which is what most public transport was designed for - its basically their economy so naturally it will be biased towards that.
- danuker 4y ago
  Fair point. From El Prat to where, do you think would be a fair analysis?
- RobertoG 4y ago
  El Prat is not Barcelona, and, still, you have train, metro, public and private bus as an option to arrive from downtown. The idea that public transport has been designed for tourists is preposterous. The network of public transport extend far away from the touristic places. Most tourist, and most expats in my experience (I'm thinking in those that don't bother to learn any local language), stay in three or four neighborhoods and think that that's the city and get their impressions from those few areas. That's the reason you always hear the same histories: pickpockets (stealing from tourists), dirty (drunk tourist peeing in the streets), etc
midoridensha 4y ago
>Google public transport directions show me it's 2x as slower than cars, but 4x faster than walking from the airport to Sargada Familia. ... So I'd say Barcelona has great public transport, based on this limited analysis. That doesn't sound all that great to me. Here in Tokyo, driving is generally not significantly faster than public transit, though of course it can vary a lot depending on your two endpoints. And of course, if you add in time to find parking, that usually makes driving very unattractive (though this doesn't affect taxis of course, so those can be attractive for some routes if you have tons of money you want to waste because they're not cheap).