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Is this really a problem that can be fixed by an app? It seems more like a human behavior issue to me. There is a filter, and people are trying to get through

Is this really a problem that can be fixed by an app? It seems more like a human behavior issue to me. There is a filter, and people are trying to get through it. It's adversarial, and automating the process makes it easier to game, which is why those solutions have not been adopted.

snarkypixel 4y ago
I think the problem is how the vast majority of inbound job requests are spam or irrelevant, while at the same time there are a few gems out there that can't seem to reach the right candidates.
- fallingknife 4y ago
  Sure, but how do you address this routing issue? Let recruiters target candidates in a different and more granular way than Linkedin, I guess? But then there is the issue that the paying customers are going to be on the recruiting end (like they are on Linkedin), not the employees, and the recruiters want to spam. I do think you could find a better way to solve this problem, though. Unfortunately I also think that you would run into this problem (https://www.fortressofdoors.com/so-you-want-to-compete-with-steam/ https://www.fortressofdoors.com/so-you-want-to-compete-with-...) except replace Steam with Linkedin.
SuoDuanDao 4y ago
I think it could, in theory. I've had the idea of approaching it more like a sorting problem. Scrape social media of the candidates and the company, use NLP to provide a 'cultural fit' metric that circumvents the interview process...
- fallingknife 4y ago
  Problem with culture fit is that no one is willing to be completely honest about what they want, or what their culture is. No candidate is going to ever say "I'm a mediocre engineer really just looking for something easy where I can coast. Below market comp is OK." And no company is ever going to say "Kind of bureaucratic for a company this size, so want somebody who has a high BS tolerance, and will put up with that in exchange for good pay and reasonably low productivity standards." Also god help you if your culture fit algorithm has correlations with race / gender / nationality. And there's pretty much a 100% chance it will.
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    Mediocre means average. Most developers/people are mediocre or average. Perhaps you mean below average.
- bigbillheck 4y ago
  Sounds like an even worse approach than Triplebyte's.

snarkypixel 4y ago

I think the problem is how the vast majority of inbound job requests are spam or irrelevant, while at the same time there are a few gems out there that can't seem to reach the right candidates.

fallingknife 4y ago
Sure, but how do you address this routing issue? Let recruiters target candidates in a different and more granular way than Linkedin, I guess? But then there is the issue that the paying customers are going to be on the recruiting end (like they are on Linkedin), not the employees, and the recruiters want to spam. I do think you could find a better way to solve this problem, though. Unfortunately I also think that you would run into this problem (https://www.fortressofdoors.com/so-you-want-to-compete-with-steam/ https://www.fortressofdoors.com/so-you-want-to-compete-with-...) except replace Steam with Linkedin.

SuoDuanDao 4y ago

I think it could, in theory. I've had the idea of approaching it more like a sorting problem. Scrape social media of the candidates and the company, use NLP to provide a 'cultural fit' metric that circumvents the interview process...

fallingknife 4y ago
Problem with culture fit is that no one is willing to be completely honest about what they want, or what their culture is. No candidate is going to ever say "I'm a mediocre engineer really just looking for something easy where I can coast. Below market comp is OK." And no company is ever going to say "Kind of bureaucratic for a company this size, so want somebody who has a high BS tolerance, and will put up with that in exchange for good pay and reasonably low productivity standards." Also god help you if your culture fit algorithm has correlations with race / gender / nationality. And there's pretty much a 100% chance it will.
- ipaddr 4y ago
  Mediocre means average. Most developers/people are mediocre or average. Perhaps you mean below average.
bigbillheck 4y ago
Sounds like an even worse approach than Triplebyte's.