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I don't think it's 'my distro is better' as much as it is people who loved ubuntu pissed off in the direction they went with Snaps. At least, that's my persona

I don't think it's 'my distro is better' as much as it is people who loved ubuntu pissed off in the direction they went with Snaps. At least, that's my personal position. IMO, snaps have no reason to exist other than NIH. But, if they wanted to do it anyways, fine. But it should have always been opt in, and people could for example try out the Steam snap. Instead they made everything a snap mess that rarely works quickly or predictably .

gibspaulding 4y ago
I liked the idea of snaps as something like the AUR. Basically a straightforward way to get un-trusted/closed source software installed without giving some random installer root on my system. Apps like Steam, Spotify, Discord, maybe even Chrome make a lot of sense since they don't really fit into a traditional open source distribution model, but I wish they'd stick with apt for anything open source.
- lostdog 4y ago
  Flatpack already existing, and snap makes programs take 30x as long to run.
  - rubyist5eva 4y ago
    can you use Flatpack for command line apps yet?
    - jcastro 4y ago
      Flatpak is focused on GUI apps only, for CLI apps you'd use whatever you're used to.
      - inetknght 4y ago
        What makes a GUI app worth containerizing and CLI tools not worth containerizing?
        jcastro 4y ago
        > What makes a GUI app worth containerizing and CLI tools not worth containerizing? Agree 100%, and podman/docker already exist. The way I do it is to use [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to use whatever distro's userspace has the thing I need (I use either the newer devel version of ubuntu or alpine), so if I need a newer version of a CLI tool I can get that without conflating it with the OS layer. It's a similar workflow to how OSX and Windows WSL do it. So I'm just using the normal debian packages for everything, except it's in a nice split out container just for my userspace with access to all my data. This is the workflow from Fedora Silverblue, openSUSE's MicroOS and EndlessOS, which kind of forces you into the cloud native mindset, but you can run any distro this way.
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gibspaulding 4y ago

I liked the idea of snaps as something like the AUR. Basically a straightforward way to get un-trusted/closed source software installed without giving some random installer root on my system. Apps like Steam, Spotify, Discord, maybe even Chrome make a lot of sense since they don't really fit into a traditional open source distribution model, but I wish they'd stick with apt for anything open source.

lostdog 4y ago
Flatpack already existing, and snap makes programs take 30x as long to run.
- rubyist5eva 4y ago
  can you use Flatpack for command line apps yet?
  - jcastro 4y ago
    Flatpak is focused on GUI apps only, for CLI apps you'd use whatever you're used to.
    - inetknght 4y ago
      What makes a GUI app worth containerizing and CLI tools not worth containerizing?
      - jcastro 4y ago
        > What makes a GUI app worth containerizing and CLI tools not worth containerizing? Agree 100%, and podman/docker already exist. The way I do it is to use [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to use whatever distro's userspace has the thing I need (I use either the newer devel version of ubuntu or alpine), so if I need a newer version of a CLI tool I can get that without conflating it with the OS layer. It's a similar workflow to how OSX and Windows WSL do it. So I'm just using the normal debian packages for everything, except it's in a nice split out container just for my userspace with access to all my data. This is the workflow from Fedora Silverblue, openSUSE's MicroOS and EndlessOS, which kind of forces you into the cloud native mindset, but you can run any distro this way.
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