The problem is not whether or not any definition of consciousness is correct, the problem that even if it can be said to be correct, such definitions often just

The problem is not whether or not any definition of consciousness is correct, the problem that even if it can be said to be correct, such definitions often just shift the undefinedness and hairiness of consciousness to some other term. In your specific case, for example, there are non-trivial issues with the words "perception", "self", and "internal experiences". So instead of ben_w saying >nobody really knows what "consciousness" means you just changed it to >nobody really knows what "internal experiences" means So then we haven't really gained anything in terms of being able to do rigorous science w.r.t. consciousness (except for some vague pointers, which might be valuable nonetheless).