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Imagine rising to the ranks of prime minister of one of the most influential countries ever and for your legacy to be a head of lettuce out-survived your reign.

Imagine rising to the ranks of prime minister of one of the most influential countries ever and for your legacy to be a head of lettuce out-survived your reign. That the Queen literally died the day after meeting you. Unbelievable.

tomalaci 4y ago
I think she is one of the best politics speedrunners. Managed to rack up a lot of attention for a lot of different things, finishing with a grand exit. She will be enjoying that lettuce now.
gonzo41 4y ago
Yep, she was so reprehensible the queen died! And then off that great distraction she did the job that baldy she almost tanked the world economy. Now falling on her sword and claiming the shortest tenure in British history. I would feel very poorly about the tory gang in London if I were say from the North Irish area or Welsh, or Sottish at the moment. This isn't good for European stability either. Hopefully the money and support continues to flow without issue to Ukraine.
- DharmaPolice 4y ago
  Most of London isn't fond of the Tory gang either. Of the 73 seats that London has, the Conservatives only hold 21 of them.
cassianoleal 4y ago
And the King was already fed up with her as well: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/13/king-charles-greets-liz-truss-dear-oh-dear-uk-prime-minister-weekly-audience https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/13/king-charles...
akudha 4y ago
Britain, Brazil, Australia, Philippines, India, Turkey, U.S … it is mind numbing that of all the good, talented people these countries have, only the dumbest, worst of the worst end up in positions of power. Depressing. At this point, we can just randomly pick a citizen to be President or PM. We might have better chances that way
- kmlx 4y ago
  if you’re talented why would you ever go into politics or work as a civil servant?
  - imdsm 4y ago
    It's an extension of "if you can't, teach" I think. Perhaps there's a second verse to it, like with "Jack of all trades, often better than master of none". If you can't, teach, and if you can't do that, go into politics.
  - akudha 4y ago
    Setting money aside for a moment, one can do much more good in a government position that as a private entity (unless you have Bill Gates level wealth, but that is a different conversation). My dad worked for a nationalized bank - we were poor, but my dad helped tons of people thanks to his job with the government. His pay was shit, he had nothing to show for his 33 years of work money wise, but he was so happy helping marginalized and poor villagers. I on the other hand - my starting salary matched his last salary. I have nothing to show achievements wise - all I have done is attend meaningless meetings and write CRUD code for soulless companies. While the government job situation today is much worse that it was during my dad's time, I still think one can do a lot of good as civil servant than as a highly paid developer for a wall street firm. I agree with you on the topics of politics though.
    - trash3 4y ago
  - xenophonf 4y ago
    Because not everything is fungible. Because a person is a person through other people. Because despite the rhetoric of cynics, good governance is both possible and valuable. Because one is not content to merely be critical of current governance from the sidelines. Because one supports the mission; it is necessary. Because the mission is challenging. Because one values service to their fellow citizens. Because their fellow citizens value that person's talents and service. Because even if someone believes that everything is fungible and nothing matters but themselves, it's possible to find challenging, well paid, highly regarded work in government.
cloutchaser 4y ago
This lady was for turning. Unfortunately, if you want to shake things up and introduce even moderately radical policies, you better have the stamina and political will and skill to push them through and keep at it. Britain's first female prime minister had that. The third one didn't...
- gpderetta 4y ago
  > you better have the stamina and political will and skill to push them through and keep at it. not bankrupting your country also helps.
gumby 4y ago
> That the Queen literally died the day after meeting you. I like the hot take that historians a couple of centuries from now will see that the Queen died and a couple of days later the currency crashed and say "even in the early 21st century the monarch had immense covert powers and the death of one was an existential crisis for these democracies." Whoever thought of this (not I) was brilliant. Seems almost certain to happen, probably because of (not despite) the sheer volume of contemporary commentary.

tomalaci 4y ago

I think she is one of the best politics speedrunners. Managed to rack up a lot of attention for a lot of different things, finishing with a grand exit. She will be enjoying that lettuce now.

gonzo41 4y ago

Yep, she was so reprehensible the queen died! And then off that great distraction she did the job that baldy she almost tanked the world economy. Now falling on her sword and claiming the shortest tenure in British history. I would feel very poorly about the tory gang in London if I were say from the North Irish area or Welsh, or Sottish at the moment. This isn't good for European stability either. Hopefully the money and support continues to flow without issue to Ukraine.

DharmaPolice 4y ago
Most of London isn't fond of the Tory gang either. Of the 73 seats that London has, the Conservatives only hold 21 of them.

cassianoleal 4y ago

And the King was already fed up with her as well: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/13/king-charles-greets-liz-truss-dear-oh-dear-uk-prime-minister-weekly-audience https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/13/king-charles...

akudha 4y ago

Britain, Brazil, Australia, Philippines, India, Turkey, U.S … it is mind numbing that of all the good, talented people these countries have, only the dumbest, worst of the worst end up in positions of power. Depressing. At this point, we can just randomly pick a citizen to be President or PM. We might have better chances that way

kmlx 4y ago
if you’re talented why would you ever go into politics or work as a civil servant?
- imdsm 4y ago
  It's an extension of "if you can't, teach" I think. Perhaps there's a second verse to it, like with "Jack of all trades, often better than master of none". If you can't, teach, and if you can't do that, go into politics.
- akudha 4y ago
  Setting money aside for a moment, one can do much more good in a government position that as a private entity (unless you have Bill Gates level wealth, but that is a different conversation). My dad worked for a nationalized bank - we were poor, but my dad helped tons of people thanks to his job with the government. His pay was shit, he had nothing to show for his 33 years of work money wise, but he was so happy helping marginalized and poor villagers. I on the other hand - my starting salary matched his last salary. I have nothing to show achievements wise - all I have done is attend meaningless meetings and write CRUD code for soulless companies. While the government job situation today is much worse that it was during my dad's time, I still think one can do a lot of good as civil servant than as a highly paid developer for a wall street firm. I agree with you on the topics of politics though.
  - trash3 4y ago
- xenophonf 4y ago
  Because not everything is fungible. Because a person is a person through other people. Because despite the rhetoric of cynics, good governance is both possible and valuable. Because one is not content to merely be critical of current governance from the sidelines. Because one supports the mission; it is necessary. Because the mission is challenging. Because one values service to their fellow citizens. Because their fellow citizens value that person's talents and service. Because even if someone believes that everything is fungible and nothing matters but themselves, it's possible to find challenging, well paid, highly regarded work in government.

cloutchaser 4y ago

This lady was for turning. Unfortunately, if you want to shake things up and introduce even moderately radical policies, you better have the stamina and political will and skill to push them through and keep at it. Britain's first female prime minister had that. The third one didn't...

gpderetta 4y ago
> you better have the stamina and political will and skill to push them through and keep at it. not bankrupting your country also helps.

gumby 4y ago

> That the Queen literally died the day after meeting you. I like the hot take that historians a couple of centuries from now will see that the Queen died and a couple of days later the currency crashed and say "even in the early 21st century the monarch had immense covert powers and the death of one was an existential crisis for these democracies." Whoever thought of this (not I) was brilliant. Seems almost certain to happen, probably because of (not despite) the sheer volume of contemporary commentary.