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>Want to talk to your therapist about your suicidal thoughts, bulimia, or self-harm, nope. Not unless you want to take a mandatory grippy sock vacation away fro

>Want to talk to your therapist about your suicidal thoughts, bulimia, or self-harm, nope. Not unless you want to take a mandatory grippy sock vacation away from your support network and get set back in school or lose your job all things famous for improving mental health. It takes a hell of a lot more than this to be involuntarily taken into a psychiatric hospital. The stuff you are saying is flat out wrong. It's also extremely harmful. I say this as someone who volunteers on a suicide hotline and takes calls like this every night I'm on shift. No one is going to involuntarily take you to hospital unless you are in really, really imminent danger (as in, you have a loaded gun and insist you will use it in twenty minutes level of danger). Just having suicidal thoughts or even self-harming will not result in your autonomy being taken away. Please, if you are having harmful thoughts, the best thing you can do is talk to someone. Don't let the nonsense above scare you away - you CAN talk to your therapist about this stuff. It's why they exist.

Spivak 4y ago
> Don't let the nonsense above scare you away - you CAN talk to your therapist about this stuff. It's why they exist. I’ve had every therapist I’ve ever seen give me a rehearsed speech about what things they’re required by law to take action (i.e 5150 although technically a different number here) for and it’s always self-harm and suicidal-thoughts, but not ideation. Maybe it varies by state? The speech always came with a wink wink just don’t tell me explicitly and we can talk about it here so I think they agree with you.
- alasdair_ 4y ago
  “Action” is different from involuntary commitment. All I can say is that out of the many thousands of calls yearly to the Seattle-area hotlines, the number of direct involuntary interventions was on the order of a few dozen a year at most. Yes, if you are in imminent danger, people will come to you and try and talk you out of it, and there are lots of voluntary hospitalizations, but it’s honestly rare for someone to be taken against their will and usually only happens in cases of heavy psychosis. The thing with a therapist is that many are not set up to be crisis counsellors and so they will want you to talk to someone who can help in a crisis rather than once a week for an hour. But that’s all.
teddyh 4y ago
> It takes a hell of a lot more than this to be involuntarily taken into a psychiatric hospital. I’m not sure that’s true. These are not mine, but supposedly true to life: https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=july-31-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=july-31-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-3-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-3-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-4-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-4-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-5-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-5-2020

Spivak 4y ago

> Don't let the nonsense above scare you away - you CAN talk to your therapist about this stuff. It's why they exist. I’ve had every therapist I’ve ever seen give me a rehearsed speech about what things they’re required by law to take action (i.e 5150 although technically a different number here) for and it’s always self-harm and suicidal-thoughts, but not ideation. Maybe it varies by state? The speech always came with a wink wink just don’t tell me explicitly and we can talk about it here so I think they agree with you.

alasdair_ 4y ago
“Action” is different from involuntary commitment. All I can say is that out of the many thousands of calls yearly to the Seattle-area hotlines, the number of direct involuntary interventions was on the order of a few dozen a year at most. Yes, if you are in imminent danger, people will come to you and try and talk you out of it, and there are lots of voluntary hospitalizations, but it’s honestly rare for someone to be taken against their will and usually only happens in cases of heavy psychosis. The thing with a therapist is that many are not set up to be crisis counsellors and so they will want you to talk to someone who can help in a crisis rather than once a week for an hour. But that’s all.

teddyh 4y ago

> It takes a hell of a lot more than this to be involuntarily taken into a psychiatric hospital. I’m not sure that’s true. These are not mine, but supposedly true to life: https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=july-31-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=july-31-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-3-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-3-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-4-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-4-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-5-2020 https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=august-5-2020