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I only want to forget about politics at least when I’m using an operating system.

Fnoord 4y ago
Political apathy is the one way street to an authoritarian society. Just have a look at Russia what political apathy has brought the Russians.
- Asdrubalini 4y ago
  I’m just talking about when I’m using my distro of choice, not in general. Politics by definition is divisive and always thinking about it is destructive, I want to relax and stop thinking about stuff at least when I’m minding my own business using Linux and sharing stuff without caring about what other people’s opinions are.
  - Fnoord 4y ago
    You want a distribution more akin to status quo. Great, these are widely available. But to think that Arch Linux and Debian GNU/Linux and Fedora are all apolitical is nonsense; rather, their politics are not bothering you. The only thing I got against all of this is the paradox of choice. Why so many different Linux distributions? Same in a large US grocery store. 20 brands of mayonaise, why? How can I tell the differences?
    - Asdrubalini 4y ago
      According to Arch Linux's wiki: [1] "Arch is a pragmatic distribution rather than an ideological one. The principles here are only useful guidelines. Ultimately, design decisions are made on a case-by-case basis through developer consensus. Evidence-based technical analysis and debate are what matter, not politics or popular opinion." I don't know about Fedora or Debian since I don't use them but for sure they don't have "anti $IDEOLOGY" on their homepage right after the distro's name. And for reference, I'm not bothered by anti fascism since I'm not fascist, I just don't even want to think about fascism, socialism, communism, capitalism or politics in general when I'm minding my own business in Linux. I don't care at all about the the person I am collaborating with or the person who has written the software I am using's belief about politics. I couldn't care less that dwm, st or suckless in general is composed by neo-nazists (if that's true). I simply don't want to be reminded of politics existence when I'm using Linux. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux section 1.3
      - Fnoord 4y ago
        They're political, just not explicit. You're confusing political with ideological. And, even then, ideological is just following some -ism. Which are everywhere, apparent or not. Personally, I'm not interested in a Linux distribution which is expressive about being 'anti-fascism', but I am very glad they declare they are. Its a sure notion (red flag) that I don't want to get involved. And a distribution, by its very nature, is making choices. Which default for X or Y, which package manager, which kernel, which licenses, etc etc. As software developed by neonazis: personally, if I'd know that to be true, I'd be wary of such software. YMMV.
        Asdrubalini 4y ago
        Honestly I have never experienced anything political officially from the Arch Linux team and I have been using it for five years. They have always been pretty pragmatic as they say, and technical choices are not political in the sense we are talking about (or could be in some cases like licenses, but Arch Linux lets you do pretty much whatever you want).
- lakomen 4y ago
  Oh shaddap. Too many Reddit people here lately. You have no fucking what you're talking about. Stupid troll and I hate that I let myself be triggered by your stupid trolling
  - Fnoord 4y ago
    If you believe someone is trolling you should flag the post instead of reply to them or call them troll or flaming them. That's not done here on HN, see the guidelines.
oytis 4y ago
I'm using Arch and Ubuntu, and I can't remember when either reminded me of anything political
- Asdrubalini 4y ago
  This is part of the reason why I use arch and not antix or other political distros.

Political apathy is the one way street to an authoritarian society. Just have a look at Russia what political apathy has brought the Russians.

Asdrubalini 4y ago
I’m just talking about when I’m using my distro of choice, not in general. Politics by definition is divisive and always thinking about it is destructive, I want to relax and stop thinking about stuff at least when I’m minding my own business using Linux and sharing stuff without caring about what other people’s opinions are.
- Fnoord 4y ago
  You want a distribution more akin to status quo. Great, these are widely available. But to think that Arch Linux and Debian GNU/Linux and Fedora are all apolitical is nonsense; rather, their politics are not bothering you. The only thing I got against all of this is the paradox of choice. Why so many different Linux distributions? Same in a large US grocery store. 20 brands of mayonaise, why? How can I tell the differences?
  - Asdrubalini 4y ago
    According to Arch Linux's wiki: [1] "Arch is a pragmatic distribution rather than an ideological one. The principles here are only useful guidelines. Ultimately, design decisions are made on a case-by-case basis through developer consensus. Evidence-based technical analysis and debate are what matter, not politics or popular opinion." I don't know about Fedora or Debian since I don't use them but for sure they don't have "anti $IDEOLOGY" on their homepage right after the distro's name. And for reference, I'm not bothered by anti fascism since I'm not fascist, I just don't even want to think about fascism, socialism, communism, capitalism or politics in general when I'm minding my own business in Linux. I don't care at all about the the person I am collaborating with or the person who has written the software I am using's belief about politics. I couldn't care less that dwm, st or suckless in general is composed by neo-nazists (if that's true). I simply don't want to be reminded of politics existence when I'm using Linux. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux section 1.3
    - Fnoord 4y ago
      They're political, just not explicit. You're confusing political with ideological. And, even then, ideological is just following some -ism. Which are everywhere, apparent or not. Personally, I'm not interested in a Linux distribution which is expressive about being 'anti-fascism', but I am very glad they declare they are. Its a sure notion (red flag) that I don't want to get involved. And a distribution, by its very nature, is making choices. Which default for X or Y, which package manager, which kernel, which licenses, etc etc. As software developed by neonazis: personally, if I'd know that to be true, I'd be wary of such software. YMMV.
      - Asdrubalini 4y ago
        Honestly I have never experienced anything political officially from the Arch Linux team and I have been using it for five years. They have always been pretty pragmatic as they say, and technical choices are not political in the sense we are talking about (or could be in some cases like licenses, but Arch Linux lets you do pretty much whatever you want).
lakomen 4y ago
Oh shaddap. Too many Reddit people here lately. You have no fucking what you're talking about. Stupid troll and I hate that I let myself be triggered by your stupid trolling
- Fnoord 4y ago
  If you believe someone is trolling you should flag the post instead of reply to them or call them troll or flaming them. That's not done here on HN, see the guidelines.

oytis 4y ago

I'm using Arch and Ubuntu, and I can't remember when either reminded me of anything political

Asdrubalini 4y ago
This is part of the reason why I use arch and not antix or other political distros.