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I'm ok with it being legal to photograph, video, or record audio of public spaces without people. I'm pretty sure I'd prefer that photographing, filming, or au

by __d 4y ago

I'm ok with it being legal to photograph, video, or record audio of public spaces without people. I'm pretty sure I'd prefer that photographing, filming, or audio recording me in an identifiable way was illegal without my explicit consent. I think public officials should be subject to recording while performing their duties. I think celebrities should not, unless they explicitly consent. Security cameras might need some sort of exemption: record, but don't look except under explicit circumstances (like, you've been robbed).

code_duck 4y ago
So if someone is visiting a town and desires to take a photo of a landmark, they can't take it unless nobody is visible in the photo? How would anyone ever take photos of the Great Wall or the US Capitol or the like?
- __d 4y ago
  Perhaps the camera software should automatically blur faces unless instructed otherwise? I don't know the right solution. I do know I hate been photographed or videoed in public though.
  - code_duck 4y ago
    I guess, but how does the camera know whether you have consent or not?
sneak 4y ago
> I'm pretty sure I'd prefer that photographing, filming, or audio recording me in an identifiable way was illegal without my explicit consent. You’re talking about banning street photography, a rich art form with a long history that is presently regarded as protected artistic expression. Additionally, you can’t really reasonably hold any expectation of privacy when you are in a public place where anyone can see you. If I can legally see you with my eyes, I should be able to legally photograph you. That’s my right.
- __d 4y ago
  I used to find the argument that "if I can see you, I can photograph you" a lot more compelling. But now that a photograph is not a piece of paper, but rather both an image and its metadata, and trivially able to be, for instance, reverse image searched, leading to yet more metadata, etc, etc, I'm far less inclined to support it. I'm coming to a view that there's a lot of difference between being seen (like, with eyes) and being photographed. It's certainly a shame that photography as an artform might be collateral damage here, but it doesn't change the situation that a photograph of me, in public, is now a gateway to a lot more than just an image.

by __d 4y ago

code_duck 4y ago

So if someone is visiting a town and desires to take a photo of a landmark, they can't take it unless nobody is visible in the photo? How would anyone ever take photos of the Great Wall or the US Capitol or the like?

__d 4y ago
Perhaps the camera software should automatically blur faces unless instructed otherwise? I don't know the right solution. I do know I hate been photographed or videoed in public though.
- code_duck 4y ago
  I guess, but how does the camera know whether you have consent or not?

sneak 4y ago

> I'm pretty sure I'd prefer that photographing, filming, or audio recording me in an identifiable way was illegal without my explicit consent. You’re talking about banning street photography, a rich art form with a long history that is presently regarded as protected artistic expression. Additionally, you can’t really reasonably hold any expectation of privacy when you are in a public place where anyone can see you. If I can legally see you with my eyes, I should be able to legally photograph you. That’s my right.

__d 4y ago
I used to find the argument that "if I can see you, I can photograph you" a lot more compelling. But now that a photograph is not a piece of paper, but rather both an image and its metadata, and trivially able to be, for instance, reverse image searched, leading to yet more metadata, etc, etc, I'm far less inclined to support it. I'm coming to a view that there's a lot of difference between being seen (like, with eyes) and being photographed. It's certainly a shame that photography as an artform might be collateral damage here, but it doesn't change the situation that a photograph of me, in public, is now a gateway to a lot more than just an image.