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> It's called proxy-war. And what are the sides in this proxy war, US and Russia? Was it a proxy war when Crimea was annexed? Or when Russian military entered
by hbrn 4y ago
> It's called proxy-war.
And what are the sides in this proxy war, US and Russia?
Was it a proxy war when Crimea was annexed? Or when Russian military entered eastern Ukraine? Or when Georgia was invaded?
Either US is surprisingly good at starting these proxy wars and Russia is incredibly stupid to be falling for the same trick over and over and over.
Or maybe those are just land grabs by Russia, and US involvement here is tangential.
- nix23 4y ago>And what are the sides in this proxy war, US and Russia? Nato, but i am sure you already knew that. The east extension of nato is just good to justify a "strong" nato, to motivate Europeans to spend more money for the military...the very thing the US asked for, in the last decade.
- hbrn 4y agoOverwhelming majority of Ukrainians were against joining NATO until Crimea was annexed. Finland and Sweden were against joining NATO until Russo-Ukrainian war. It sounds like NATO expansion is triggered by Russia being a terrible neighbor. Blaming it on US because they presumably wanted EU to spend more money is some americentrist mental gymnastics. Somehow US is all-powerful, bending the whole NATO to their will, and at the same time unable to convince Turkey to let Finland in. Reminds me one of the properties of fascism: the enemy is too strong and too weak at the same time.
- darthrupert 4y agoThis is exactly it. Europe spreads towards Nato for pure self-interest, to get additional protection against the worst pile of corruption on this world. If Russia could be trusted, Nato would never have been even formed.