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Probably not as it’s not a meaningful comparison. One is completely driverless (L4) and the other requires a driver with hands on the wheel ready to take over (

by ra7 4y ago

Probably not as it’s not a meaningful comparison. One is completely driverless (L4) and the other requires a driver with hands on the wheel ready to take over (L2). Removing the driver (safely and reliably) is like 99.99% of the problem in self driving. That means FSD has to work only once for a YouTube video, but a Waymo has to work every single time as there’s no driver to rescue when things go wrong. So apples to oranges.

aantix 4y ago
That's still a meaningful comparison as it would highlight the disparity between FSD and Waymo.
- jeffbee 4y ago
  The difference is that Waymo works and FSD does not work, so it's going to be a short video. FSD cannot take a trip without a man behind the wheel, full stop. It is not any more "self driving" than any other car.
  - GaylordTuring 4y ago
    But the person can just sit there and not continue to drive after an intervention. I don’t see why this video wouldn’t be possible or interesting.
    - jeffbee 4y ago
      My Honda Civic also proceeds in a more or less forward direction between driver interventions, but it is not self-driving.
      - Sirened 4y ago
        recent civics do actually have decent driver assist beyond just having mostly aligned wheels ;)
  - patrick451 4y ago
    You can easily find videos of waymo cars doing crazy stuff that stretches the definition of "working" pretty far. E.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdKCQKBvH-A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdKCQKBvH-A Nobody has time for shenanigans like that.