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Then prison as a punishment will stop becoming a punishment and will reduce incentive to abide by laws
by slt2021 4y ago
Then prison as a punishment will stop becoming a punishment and will reduce incentive to abide by laws
- yamtaddle 4y agoYou think... the threat of abuse and assault by inmates and guards is something we should keep around on purpose?
- slt2021 4y agoyes because there are always will be some criminals in population, and you want to keep the system bad so that others' wont ever think of committing crime, especially juveniles and first time offenders
- MichaelCollins 4y agoIf the government doesn't provide some measure of retributive justice, people will seek it themselves, and that is much worse for society.
- heavyset_go 4y agoThere are a lot of people that think like this, you won't be able to convince them that prisoners should be treated with dignity. I've found that they are receptive of evidence when it comes to efficacy, recidivism, cost, etc. If you care about those things, our prison system makes no sense, it only makes sense if cruelty and maintaining a steady supply of forced labor are the only things they care about.
- BoorishBears 4y agoIf how terrible prison is what backs your incentive to abide by laws, I'm worried. Criminals generally don't expect to be caught, the quality of prison doesn't matter much if you're not planning on going there.
- slt2021 4y agothere is always risk/reward calculation. if you replace prison time with home arrest, then you remove downside to being caught. Especially for second/Nth time offenders.
- BoorishBears 4y agoIf you're good with risk/reward you generally don't do crime (at least, not the kind that doesn't already leave you in the kind of minimum security-style prison being proposed here). In 2015 the average robbery netted less than $2,000 while the average sentence length was almost 10 years. Risking 10 years of your life for $2,000 isn't something that people who understand risk/reward will do, how bad things are while you spend those 10 years is basically a rounding error compared to just how terrible of an idea it already is.
- smegger001 4y agoif the cost to imprison someone is far larger than damages done maybe it would be cheaper for the tax payer to just make the victim whole and give the criminal a lesser sentence.
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- heavyset_go 4y agoPrisons are sexual assault factories, yet that didn't stop the 3 million people who are currently incarcerated here.
- ClumsyPilot 4y agowell why stop there, lets bring back brutal medieval torture, I am sure if people are threatened with being drawn and quartered that will bring the crime rate right down. Russia has torture in prisons and 99% conviction rate, how cone their crime rate is high? Finland's prisons look like 3 star hotels, how come their crime rate is low?
- DocTomoe 4y agoBecause degrading prison as a deterrent works so well, as evidenced in the low crime numbers of the US, as compared to rampant crime in Europe, where prison is much more human-rights-compliant.