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Would a person with low income prefer A) having an option to lower the electricity bill or B) pay more because there is no such option, and more expensive power

Would a person with low income prefer A) having an option to lower the electricity bill or B) pay more because there is no such option, and more expensive power needs to be sourced from peaking power plants? There are already day-ahead electricity markets with prices that vary throughout the day. You _already_ pay a premium over those variable prices, for the convenience of a fixed rate. All I'm saying is that it would be good if consumers had the _option_ of eliminating some of that premium, in exchange for demand shifting.

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LarryDarrell 4y ago
This is all kind of theoretical. Low income people rent from landlords that will not install EV charging infrastructure unless the Federal Government pays for it. So the correct answer is c) buy a 2005 Honda Civic.
theironhammer 4y ago
EVs are going to screw low income people via Sky High Electricity prices. Electricity will become an expensive commodity. Look at prices in the UK and Europe. It's already starting to happen (but not because of EVs). Just wait till EVs become pervasive. All that demand for electricity.
- _skel 4y ago
  What is happening in the UK and Europe right now is a preview of a future where fossil fuel supply is rapidly curtailed before alternatives are ready. It's a cautionary tale about moving too fast in the right direction. It's easy to say "stop oil now" and things like that, but the reality is that there is only so much suffering the population will take before they turn to right-wing populist politicians who promise to roll back the progress that has been made, or their governments bankrupt themselves by subsidizing the pain away. These changes need to be made gradually.
  - nathanaldensr 4y ago
    > These changes need to be made gradually. Or not at all. Not everyone believes as you do.
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LarryDarrell 4y ago

This is all kind of theoretical. Low income people rent from landlords that will not install EV charging infrastructure unless the Federal Government pays for it. So the correct answer is c) buy a 2005 Honda Civic.

theironhammer 4y ago

EVs are going to screw low income people via Sky High Electricity prices. Electricity will become an expensive commodity. Look at prices in the UK and Europe. It's already starting to happen (but not because of EVs). Just wait till EVs become pervasive. All that demand for electricity.

_skel 4y ago
What is happening in the UK and Europe right now is a preview of a future where fossil fuel supply is rapidly curtailed before alternatives are ready. It's a cautionary tale about moving too fast in the right direction. It's easy to say "stop oil now" and things like that, but the reality is that there is only so much suffering the population will take before they turn to right-wing populist politicians who promise to roll back the progress that has been made, or their governments bankrupt themselves by subsidizing the pain away. These changes need to be made gradually.
- nathanaldensr 4y ago
  > These changes need to be made gradually. Or not at all. Not everyone believes as you do.
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