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China is responsible for 27% of total global emissions. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/06/chinas-greenhouse-gas-emissions-exceed-us-developed-world-report.ht

China is responsible for 27% of total global emissions. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/06/chinas-greenhouse-gas-emissions-exceed-us-developed-world-report.html https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/06/chinas-greenhouse-gas-em... Some of it can be tied directly to US trade, and some of it can be tied to taking the all those profits and building internally. We exported all that manufacturing which used a lot of dirty coal The US is 11% of the total.

ch4s3 4y ago
My point is that the US didn't "export all of its manufacturing" or all of its consumption emissions. Both statements are demonstrably false. Even still, of China's emissions only half are industrial. In the US manufacturing accounts for ~22% of emissions. If all of that manufacturing came back to the US, emissions would likely be lower, especially because we're phasing out coal. Don't get me wrong, it's a problem but the narrative that the US is only cutting emissions because of China's manufacturing is stupid.
- melling 4y ago
  Nowhere did I say we exported all of our manufacturing. China produces half of the world’s steel, for example. Most used internally. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_p... Largest cement producer in the world by far: https://www.statista.com/statistics/267364/world-cement-production-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267364/world-cement-prod... All that industrialization…got China to 27% of total emissions. When the US released oil from its reserves it has to be sent overseas because of the lack of domestic refineries https://www.corporateknights.com/energy/is-the-sun-setting-on-americas-oil-refineries/ https://www.corporateknights.com/energy/is-the-sun-setting-o... Anyway, yes, part of the reason the US has dropped is because we have closed coal power plants in favor of natural gas, for example. But that’s another discussion
  - ch4s3 4y ago
    I was responding mostly to the topic of the original comment.

ch4s3 4y ago

My point is that the US didn't "export all of its manufacturing" or all of its consumption emissions. Both statements are demonstrably false. Even still, of China's emissions only half are industrial. In the US manufacturing accounts for ~22% of emissions. If all of that manufacturing came back to the US, emissions would likely be lower, especially because we're phasing out coal. Don't get me wrong, it's a problem but the narrative that the US is only cutting emissions because of China's manufacturing is stupid.

melling 4y ago
Nowhere did I say we exported all of our manufacturing. China produces half of the world’s steel, for example. Most used internally. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_p... Largest cement producer in the world by far: https://www.statista.com/statistics/267364/world-cement-production-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267364/world-cement-prod... All that industrialization…got China to 27% of total emissions. When the US released oil from its reserves it has to be sent overseas because of the lack of domestic refineries https://www.corporateknights.com/energy/is-the-sun-setting-on-americas-oil-refineries/ https://www.corporateknights.com/energy/is-the-sun-setting-o... Anyway, yes, part of the reason the US has dropped is because we have closed coal power plants in favor of natural gas, for example. But that’s another discussion
- ch4s3 4y ago
  I was responding mostly to the topic of the original comment.