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Any thoughts on why this news overall isn't getting more attention? And what about the threat of taking away citizenships, is that even legal?

the_mitsuhiko 4y ago
Is there a source on the loss of citizenship? Historically the US made it very hard to give up citizenship, I would be surprised if they for once made an easy way to relinquish it.
- slothsinc 4y ago
  This seems to apply to Chinese-Americans specifically. Here are a couple of other sources: https://fortune.com/2022/10/13/chinese-americans-china-chip-export-ban-biden-us-semiconductors/ https://fortune.com/2022/10/13/chinese-americans-china-chip-... https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-export-curbs-place-many-233739729.html https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-export-curbs-place-many-233739...
  - slothsinc 4y ago
    Actually, the Yahoo story says: "The order applies to all U.S. citizens, green-card holders and foreign nationals who live in the U.S."
    - slothsinc 4y ago
      The Fortune headline seems misleading, but the article is behind a paywall so I couldn't read, so I'm not 100% sure.
  - mytailorisrich 4y ago
    No, the Fortune article correctly reports that people may be forced to choose. But there is no provision to strip people of citizenship in the new rules as the article you submitted implies.
mytailorisrich 4y ago
There is no threat of taking away citizenship. Citizens will be banned from certain jobs with severe penalties for breaches. Therefore execs with dualcitizenship might choose to give up US citizenship and keep their jobs instead. But no-one will take their US citizenship away. The article is highly misleading and misrepresents the situation.
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- slothsinc 4y ago
  Do you have a source for this?
  - mytailorisrich 4y ago
    The text of the actual new rules and articles that covered it in reputable publications. For instance [1]: "For many senior executives at Chinese companies, the rule will likely force them to decide between their jobs and their U.S. citizenship or permanent resident status," This is the correct, accurate take on the issue, which is being distorted in the article you posted. No-one will be stripped from their US citizenship. [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/american-executives-in-limbo-at-chinese-chip-companies-after-u-s-ban-11665912757 https://www.wsj.com/articles/american-executives-in-limbo-at...
jk_el_ra 4y ago

the_mitsuhiko 4y ago

Is there a source on the loss of citizenship? Historically the US made it very hard to give up citizenship, I would be surprised if they for once made an easy way to relinquish it.

slothsinc 4y ago
This seems to apply to Chinese-Americans specifically. Here are a couple of other sources: https://fortune.com/2022/10/13/chinese-americans-china-chip-export-ban-biden-us-semiconductors/ https://fortune.com/2022/10/13/chinese-americans-china-chip-... https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-export-curbs-place-many-233739729.html https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-export-curbs-place-many-233739...
- slothsinc 4y ago
  Actually, the Yahoo story says: "The order applies to all U.S. citizens, green-card holders and foreign nationals who live in the U.S."
  - slothsinc 4y ago
    The Fortune headline seems misleading, but the article is behind a paywall so I couldn't read, so I'm not 100% sure.
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  No, the Fortune article correctly reports that people may be forced to choose. But there is no provision to strip people of citizenship in the new rules as the article you submitted implies.

mytailorisrich 4y ago

There is no threat of taking away citizenship. Citizens will be banned from certain jobs with severe penalties for breaches. Therefore execs with dualcitizenship might choose to give up US citizenship and keep their jobs instead. But no-one will take their US citizenship away. The article is highly misleading and misrepresents the situation.

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slothsinc 4y ago
Do you have a source for this?
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  The text of the actual new rules and articles that covered it in reputable publications. For instance [1]: "For many senior executives at Chinese companies, the rule will likely force them to decide between their jobs and their U.S. citizenship or permanent resident status," This is the correct, accurate take on the issue, which is being distorted in the article you posted. No-one will be stripped from their US citizenship. [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/american-executives-in-limbo-at-chinese-chip-companies-after-u-s-ban-11665912757 https://www.wsj.com/articles/american-executives-in-limbo-at...

jk_el_ra 4y ago