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IP cameras need their WRT54G moment. It would be amazing to have an openwrt like project for them. The software is a complete mess full of bugs and security iss

IP cameras need their WRT54G moment. It would be amazing to have an openwrt like project for them. The software is a complete mess full of bugs and security issues.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
Yep... the only alternative I know is a raspberrypi zero with a motioneye os, but this makes a good camera software-wise but a shitty one regarding the sensor (high megapixel but shitty night quality) and a shitty one regarding accessories (waterproof casings, poe, ir lightning, microphones, speakers,...).
invalidator 4y ago
The RasPi kinda is that, at least when they're in stock. There are several IP camera software loads for them, whether it's for local storage, or streaming over the network.
scottlamb 4y ago
Agreed. https://github.com/OpenIPC https://github.com/OpenIPC looks promising in concept but obviously hasn't reached OpenWRT's level of success. On the NVR side, I'm slowly working on it, including https://github.com/scottlamb/moonfire-nvr https://github.com/scottlamb/moonfire-nvr and https://github.com/scottlamb/retina https://github.com/scottlamb/retina . Help welcome!
monsecchris 4y ago
My software https://monoclesecurity.com https://monoclesecurity.com has all the features being asked for here and was open source for years but i couldn’t get any financial support. It’s probably a bit late now but if some particularly generous people came along I would open source it again.
- pedrocr 4y ago
  NVR is a different problem. I meant the software inside the IP cameras themselves.
  - monsecchris 4y ago
    Monocle is also camera software. It's simple to setup and free as well. https://medium.com/@monoclechris/raspberry-pi-onvif-cctv-camera-and-nvr-91c0dd5993b5 https://medium.com/@monoclechris/raspberry-pi-onvif-cctv-cam...
squarefoot 4y ago
I think the PineCube by the Pine64 folks could be the WRT54G of IP cameras: interesting hardware, cheap and open, but it needs further development and is currently out of stock. https://pine64.com/product/pinecube-dev-kit/ https://pine64.com/product/pinecube-dev-kit/ https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineCube https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineCube
- scottlamb 4y ago
  I have one sitting on my desk. I admire the idea, but the PineCube is crap in several ways: * The sensor isn't that good to begin with. Too small. * The SoC is iirc end-of-lifed by the manufacturer and limited in terms of H.264 encoding (low-res/low-fps), even with good drivers, which it doesn't have (yet?). No NPU for on-camera ML-based analytics. * No real-time clock (although you could add one via I2C). * I don't think they've gotten the community interest they were hoping for, probably in part because of the problems above (and, circularly, this is part of why the driver situation is not good). * This is a dev board. It's not ruggedized. And given the above, I don't think a productionized version will happen. I think you can get closer with a Pi Zero 2 W and HQ camera module, but I don't have any suggestions for ruggedization, autofocus, or toggling an IR cut filter, which are must-have properties for most applications.

IP cameras need their WRT54G moment. It would be amazing to have an openwrt like project for them. The software is a complete mess full of bugs and security issues.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

Yep... the only alternative I know is a raspberrypi zero with a motioneye os, but this makes a good camera software-wise but a shitty one regarding the sensor (high megapixel but shitty night quality) and a shitty one regarding accessories (waterproof casings, poe, ir lightning, microphones, speakers,...).

invalidator 4y ago

The RasPi kinda is that, at least when they're in stock. There are several IP camera software loads for them, whether it's for local storage, or streaming over the network.

scottlamb 4y ago

Agreed. https://github.com/OpenIPC https://github.com/OpenIPC looks promising in concept but obviously hasn't reached OpenWRT's level of success. On the NVR side, I'm slowly working on it, including https://github.com/scottlamb/moonfire-nvr https://github.com/scottlamb/moonfire-nvr and https://github.com/scottlamb/retina https://github.com/scottlamb/retina . Help welcome!

monsecchris 4y ago

My software https://monoclesecurity.com https://monoclesecurity.com has all the features being asked for here and was open source for years but i couldn’t get any financial support. It’s probably a bit late now but if some particularly generous people came along I would open source it again.

pedrocr 4y ago
NVR is a different problem. I meant the software inside the IP cameras themselves.
- monsecchris 4y ago
  Monocle is also camera software. It's simple to setup and free as well. https://medium.com/@monoclechris/raspberry-pi-onvif-cctv-camera-and-nvr-91c0dd5993b5 https://medium.com/@monoclechris/raspberry-pi-onvif-cctv-cam...

squarefoot 4y ago

I think the PineCube by the Pine64 folks could be the WRT54G of IP cameras: interesting hardware, cheap and open, but it needs further development and is currently out of stock. https://pine64.com/product/pinecube-dev-kit/ https://pine64.com/product/pinecube-dev-kit/ https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineCube https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PineCube

scottlamb 4y ago
I have one sitting on my desk. I admire the idea, but the PineCube is crap in several ways: * The sensor isn't that good to begin with. Too small. * The SoC is iirc end-of-lifed by the manufacturer and limited in terms of H.264 encoding (low-res/low-fps), even with good drivers, which it doesn't have (yet?). No NPU for on-camera ML-based analytics. * No real-time clock (although you could add one via I2C). * I don't think they've gotten the community interest they were hoping for, probably in part because of the problems above (and, circularly, this is part of why the driver situation is not good). * This is a dev board. It's not ruggedized. And given the above, I don't think a productionized version will happen. I think you can get closer with a Pi Zero 2 W and HQ camera module, but I don't have any suggestions for ruggedization, autofocus, or toggling an IR cut filter, which are must-have properties for most applications.