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Any immune reaction can trigger it. Covid itself also often triggers it.

by wycy 4y ago

brippalcharrid 4y ago
The immune reaction to SARS-CoV-2 tends to happen at the boundary where the immune system encounters the pathogen (your mucosa, and the respiratory epithelium, where T cells and Natural killer cells hang out), but the immune reaction to the vaccines can happen in the muscle in your arm or in any other part of your body that the vaccine's components (eg. mRNA, lipid nanoparticles) or its products (eg. modified spike proteins) subsequently travel to and concentrate in, so we'd expect to see autoimmune disorders that affect things like the nervous system in weird and wonderful ways being caused by the vaccines in a way that we wouldn't expect to see being caused by the adaptive immune system.
- wycy 4y ago
  Covid gets in your blood and causes systemic issues all over your body. Remember “covid toe” early on in the pandemic? Nevertheless, the facial rehabilitation facility I went to (that now works exclusively with Bell’s palsy patients) has seen a significant uptick in cases immediately following a covid infection.
  - brippalcharrid 4y ago
    Severe Covid can have systemic effects (as can a lot of viruses), but mild and asymptomatic cases (in which people are developing T cell immunity following proximity to a person who has been infected, without the need for antibodies) typically aren't, because the immune system is functioning properly and presenting an effective barrier to the virus at the epithelium and preventing the disease from progressing to viraemia. Our immune systems have great methods for stopping the progress of pathogens at natural entry points, but this protection is circumvented when substances are injected into people's muscles, and a varying proportion of them (depending on whether the vaccinator hits a blood vessel) then enters the bloodstream. It would be interesting to see how many of the patients at your facility had severe cases of Covid and how many had also been vaccinated; of course it's difficult to make comparisons (as I'm sure you're aware) when "Unvaccinated" status lasts until the 14th day post-injection.

Any immune reaction can trigger it. Covid itself also often triggers it.

by wycy 4y ago

Any immune reaction can trigger it. Covid itself also often triggers it.

The immune reaction to SARS-CoV-2 tends to happen at the boundary where the immune system encounters the pathogen (your mucosa, and the respiratory epithelium, where T cells and Natural killer cells hang out), but the immune reaction to the vaccines can happen in the muscle in your arm or in any other part of your body that the vaccine's components (eg. mRNA, lipid nanoparticles) or its products (eg. modified spike proteins) subsequently travel to and concentrate in, so we'd expect to see autoimmune disorders that affect things like the nervous system in weird and wonderful ways being caused by the vaccines in a way that we wouldn't expect to see being caused by the adaptive immune system.

wycy 4y ago
Covid gets in your blood and causes systemic issues all over your body. Remember “covid toe” early on in the pandemic? Nevertheless, the facial rehabilitation facility I went to (that now works exclusively with Bell’s palsy patients) has seen a significant uptick in cases immediately following a covid infection.
- brippalcharrid 4y ago
  Severe Covid can have systemic effects (as can a lot of viruses), but mild and asymptomatic cases (in which people are developing T cell immunity following proximity to a person who has been infected, without the need for antibodies) typically aren't, because the immune system is functioning properly and presenting an effective barrier to the virus at the epithelium and preventing the disease from progressing to viraemia. Our immune systems have great methods for stopping the progress of pathogens at natural entry points, but this protection is circumvented when substances are injected into people's muscles, and a varying proportion of them (depending on whether the vaccinator hits a blood vessel) then enters the bloodstream. It would be interesting to see how many of the patients at your facility had severe cases of Covid and how many had also been vaccinated; of course it's difficult to make comparisons (as I'm sure you're aware) when "Unvaccinated" status lasts until the 14th day post-injection.