> You said that you needed those tools, so I tried to help. But this comment and your other comments make it clear that you don't really need them, you just wan

> You said that you needed those tools, so I tried to help. But this comment and your other comments make it clear that you don't really need them, you just want to prove a point. No, I do need them, though I looked up the answers when I ran into the issues. I made do, but the VSE/MSDN experience left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I'm mainly trying to prove a point, which is that VS Express is frustratingly hobbled, the non-hobbled version is unusually expensive, and that state of affairs is counter-productive to encouraging developer adoption. I'm using Microsoft's tools as a hobbyist whose day job is in running a growing desktop & mobile software development company. If they got me onboard, I'd be all that more likely to consider jumping on the Microsoft bandwagon.