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Is that just from commuting? For me the cost is 50-100€ per month depending on the cost of the public transport ticket, and that I can deduct from taxes anyway.

Is that just from commuting? For me the cost is 50-100€ per month depending on the cost of the public transport ticket, and that I can deduct from taxes anyway. Plus a couple of extra lunches I would buy with WFO. So basically negligible.

InitialLastName 4y ago
Do you value your time at $0?
- distances 4y ago
  The parent wrote "on top of that, [..] 2 hours of extra free time". So they didn't include time valuation to the 15%.
sidlls 4y ago
Here’s an example of train commuter fares in the Bay Area: https://www.caltrain.com/fares https://www.caltrain.com/fares. Travel from San Mateo to San Francisco (3 zones, around 20 miles) is $200/month. That’s the discounted fare for a ticket. It doesn’t cover parking or travel to/from the train. If you need transportation to/from the train it can add another $50-$100 per month for fares, or more for parking fees and gas consumption for drivers. And BART (a different rail system) is even more expensive. That’s not negligible: that’s almost three hours of work for me to cover the cost (pre-tax). And I’m fairly well paid. Most engineers aren’t paid half as well. It’s a much bigger hit for them.
ghaff 4y ago
I assume that's just a bus/subway pass? At least where I live, parking at the train station, a monthly train pass, plus a monthly transit pass would be something like $500 or $600 dollars. To say nothing of taking almost 90 minutes door to door.
- distances 4y ago
  Yes that's the scale for monthly public transport ticket price in large number of continental European cities. I don't own a car so I may be out of touch with those expenses, 15% just sounded to me like a lot. The time value is of course then on top, but the parent accounted for that separately.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    A monthly bus/subway pass in the local large city is in that range as well--about $90. But, as in the Bay Area example, that starts going up quite a bit if you take rail that goes beyond the bus/subway system. In Boston, if you don't have a car you almost certainly wouldn't be taking commuter rail with fairly few exceptions.

InitialLastName 4y ago

Do you value your time at $0?

distances 4y ago
The parent wrote "on top of that, [..] 2 hours of extra free time". So they didn't include time valuation to the 15%.

sidlls 4y ago

Here’s an example of train commuter fares in the Bay Area: https://www.caltrain.com/fares https://www.caltrain.com/fares. Travel from San Mateo to San Francisco (3 zones, around 20 miles) is $200/month. That’s the discounted fare for a ticket. It doesn’t cover parking or travel to/from the train. If you need transportation to/from the train it can add another $50-$100 per month for fares, or more for parking fees and gas consumption for drivers. And BART (a different rail system) is even more expensive. That’s not negligible: that’s almost three hours of work for me to cover the cost (pre-tax). And I’m fairly well paid. Most engineers aren’t paid half as well. It’s a much bigger hit for them.

ghaff 4y ago

I assume that's just a bus/subway pass? At least where I live, parking at the train station, a monthly train pass, plus a monthly transit pass would be something like $500 or $600 dollars. To say nothing of taking almost 90 minutes door to door.

distances 4y ago
Yes that's the scale for monthly public transport ticket price in large number of continental European cities. I don't own a car so I may be out of touch with those expenses, 15% just sounded to me like a lot. The time value is of course then on top, but the parent accounted for that separately.
- ghaff 4y ago
  A monthly bus/subway pass in the local large city is in that range as well--about $90. But, as in the Bay Area example, that starts going up quite a bit if you take rail that goes beyond the bus/subway system. In Boston, if you don't have a car you almost certainly wouldn't be taking commuter rail with fairly few exceptions.