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> Parenting is a biological and psychological life milestone Allow me to disagree. First: there's no evidence of any change in your body, as a male, after beco
by thefz 4y ago
> Parenting is a biological and psychological life milestone
Allow me to disagree.
First: there's no evidence of any change in your body, as a male, after becoming a father.
Second: supposing such a "wireless" change would happen, getting someone pregnant and immediately disappearing from their life would yield a perceptible change even with distance and no involvement with the life of the child.
Third: I personally think there's no innate drive to parent, and only an innate drive to mate; everything else is injected by society.
- medvezhenok 4y agoNot exactly true - they have found statistically significant hormonal changes in men after becoming fathers: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/parenting/baby/fatherhood-mens-bodies.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/parenting/baby/fatherhood...
- em-bee 4y agoyes, but did they compare to fathers who abandon their partner? or don't even know that they are a father? and likewise to fathers who adopt? i strongly suspect that it's the act of actively becoming a parent, whether biological or adoptive that is responsible for that change in hormones
- hoorible 4y agoWhich is probably why they said “parenting” and not “impregnating”
- thefz 4y agoReading the article... yikes. One more reason not to.
- jlizzle30 4y agoThere could be a great discussion about whether male parenting and reproduction comes from the bio/psycho/social drives. For this context, I think trying to make these distinctions is a distraction. By way of common sense, reproducing & parenting has been a HUGE factor in the propagation of human life (this is so obvious it's kind of funny to write).
- thefz 4y ago> For this context, I think trying to make these distinctions is a distraction. So basically you don't want to have a discussion that might make you reconsider your belief.
- jlizzle30 4y agoNo I just don’t have time to write an entire epistemological defense of “reproduction and parenting is a key milestone for humans”. It should be self evident. If you don’t think so, consider what happens if untrue (hint: no more humans).
- thefz 4y agoYou have completely missed the point of all my comments above and took your own tangent.
- newsuser 4y agoBirth of the first (and only first) child triggers what might be the largest brain rewiring in males since pubety. Women don't seem to undergo a rewiring of the same scale [1]. To me, this makes sense, given how unusual the new skillset has to be compared to pre-fatherhood life (manipulations with the newborn, deciphering needs, new attetion patterns etc.). [1] Mentioned in the book by Stanislas Dehaene, "Consciousness and the Brain", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness_and_the_Brain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness_and_the_Brain
- freedom2099 4y agoMy mother claims that the day my son was born I became a completely different person!