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I feel markedly worse with anything much less than eight hours' sleep. I find my natural circadian cycle suits waking up very early (04:30) and going to bed ver

I feel markedly worse with anything much less than eight hours' sleep. I find my natural circadian cycle suits waking up very early (04:30) and going to bed very early (20:00). I'm not a productivity bro or anything, I just feel much more rested on these hours.

diob 4y ago
I have to do 9 hours or else I'm cranky and unproductive with an incredibly low attention span. My natural sleep is definitely about 1-2 am to 10-11 am unfortunately, which is not very compatible with most jobs. Thank god for remote work and being able to nap though.
- ChildOfChaos 4y ago
  This is the problem I have, I'm quite similar, but my job doesn't allow it. Working from home has helped me dramatically as I can get up a bit closer to my ideal time, but whenever I have to work from the office, I might as well write off the whole week, it's really hard as most days I need to nap to recover lost sleep. It's a shame society isn't more flexible. It's very much aligned for the early birds and shortish sleep cycles.
  - soco 4y ago
    Because the early bird catches the worm yada yada. It's a fight uphill against the instagram self-care industry gurus telling everybody to cook a healthy breakfast, jog and gym all before work. Of course we late risers aren't that productive at 8am, if you force us outside our productive hours - said guru would be the same lag at 8pm when I'm breezing through code.
    - ChildOfChaos 4y ago
      Yeah exactly. Those people don't seem to realise, it's all the same hours, so getting up earlier doesn't help, going to bed later, does. They think it's some kinda secret but really they are just working with there body clock and cannot impose that on others.
- piva00 4y ago
  I have a very similar natural sleep cycle, it's actually a struggle for me to fall asleep before 23.00 even though I need to be in bed at 00.00 to get a proper 8-hour sleep on a 9-17 job. It sucks, since I'm a kid, I'm more productive and alert from 20-01 than from 13-17. I've tried multiple times to adjust my schedule, be more of a early morning person, ultimately I always fall back into my natural cycle. I feel like the accepted schedule in society does not suit me, it's a small struggle everyday to adapt to it. I'm now 34 and just accepted I will live my days a little bit tired while holding an office job, and accepted that I will waste the hours I feel are most productive to me so I can fit into the general office hours schedule.
  - soco 4y ago
    This. And as the GP says, long live remote work - I'll wake up before 9 only in the rare days I go to the office to say hello to the mates. So can we basically say that with the remote work trend also the "accepted schedule in society" became less important? Progress!
- polished85 4y ago
  Wow, this summarizes my natural sleep requirements too! I feel blessed that as a dev my job is flexible enough to accommodate it. This is stating the obvious, but this sleep requirement has become more critical with age. I remember being able to reset my sleep pattern by pulling an all-nighter and going to sleep "early" the following day, say 6pm to 8am giving me 14 hours of sleep before an early class. I tired that more than once now that I'm in my mid 30's and neither time worked as expected. My body demanded the lost hours of sleep which I made up over 2-3 days. I couldn't believe it--that I could no longer trick my body into resetting my sleep schedule!

diob 4y ago

I have to do 9 hours or else I'm cranky and unproductive with an incredibly low attention span. My natural sleep is definitely about 1-2 am to 10-11 am unfortunately, which is not very compatible with most jobs. Thank god for remote work and being able to nap though.

ChildOfChaos 4y ago
This is the problem I have, I'm quite similar, but my job doesn't allow it. Working from home has helped me dramatically as I can get up a bit closer to my ideal time, but whenever I have to work from the office, I might as well write off the whole week, it's really hard as most days I need to nap to recover lost sleep. It's a shame society isn't more flexible. It's very much aligned for the early birds and shortish sleep cycles.
- soco 4y ago
  Because the early bird catches the worm yada yada. It's a fight uphill against the instagram self-care industry gurus telling everybody to cook a healthy breakfast, jog and gym all before work. Of course we late risers aren't that productive at 8am, if you force us outside our productive hours - said guru would be the same lag at 8pm when I'm breezing through code.
  - ChildOfChaos 4y ago
    Yeah exactly. Those people don't seem to realise, it's all the same hours, so getting up earlier doesn't help, going to bed later, does. They think it's some kinda secret but really they are just working with there body clock and cannot impose that on others.
piva00 4y ago
I have a very similar natural sleep cycle, it's actually a struggle for me to fall asleep before 23.00 even though I need to be in bed at 00.00 to get a proper 8-hour sleep on a 9-17 job. It sucks, since I'm a kid, I'm more productive and alert from 20-01 than from 13-17. I've tried multiple times to adjust my schedule, be more of a early morning person, ultimately I always fall back into my natural cycle. I feel like the accepted schedule in society does not suit me, it's a small struggle everyday to adapt to it. I'm now 34 and just accepted I will live my days a little bit tired while holding an office job, and accepted that I will waste the hours I feel are most productive to me so I can fit into the general office hours schedule.
- soco 4y ago
  This. And as the GP says, long live remote work - I'll wake up before 9 only in the rare days I go to the office to say hello to the mates. So can we basically say that with the remote work trend also the "accepted schedule in society" became less important? Progress!
polished85 4y ago
Wow, this summarizes my natural sleep requirements too! I feel blessed that as a dev my job is flexible enough to accommodate it. This is stating the obvious, but this sleep requirement has become more critical with age. I remember being able to reset my sleep pattern by pulling an all-nighter and going to sleep "early" the following day, say 6pm to 8am giving me 14 hours of sleep before an early class. I tired that more than once now that I'm in my mid 30's and neither time worked as expected. My body demanded the lost hours of sleep which I made up over 2-3 days. I couldn't believe it--that I could no longer trick my body into resetting my sleep schedule!