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From your own link: > Among men under 40, there were an estimated four extra cases of myocarditis associated with the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine and 14 e

From your own link: > Among men under 40, there were an estimated four extra cases of myocarditis associated with the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine and 14 extra cases with the first dose of the Moderna vaccine for every 1 million men vaccinated. That risk rose with the second dose for all three vaccines studied and was highest for Moderna's, which had an additional 97 myocarditis cases per 1 million. For unvaccinated men under 40 with COVID-19, there were 16 additional myocarditis cases per million. which shows that the Moderna second dose is riskier than infection for men under 40? I have to admit I've been really disappointed by the way people have been minimising this. Part of that is being in that group of men < 40 myself (it has always been stratified by age and sex), another part of it is I think we need to be as transparent as possible about all risks in medicine as opposed to giving fuel (and good arguments) that information is being suppressed or charitably ignored because people are panicking.

random314 4y ago
- ostenning 4y ago
  I had pericarditis (which i initially thought was myocarditis until I had an MRI) shortly after vaccination. People on this forum literally urged me to go get a booster despite my experience. The overzealous opinions go both ways. How about people just do whats right for them and stop conforming to groupthink
- mns 4y ago
  Your comment shows just why people don't trust anything any more. Anything that you don't agree with is an enemy by the tone of your message, and dismissing any other opinion except the one that you hold by labelling it as "so called debates". Covid fatality is also age stratified. Besides, you might get it, you might not get it. The vaccines were mandated and people were made to get them to keep their jobs or to live their lives. People have different risk tolerance so it's normal that everyone out there has a different opinion.
c-cube 4y ago
Myocarditis is not the only risk when you get covid. You can't conclude that the vaccine is more dangerous than getting covid just based on this one effect; covid has many other dangerous effects on some people, such as destroying your lungs.

random314 4y ago

ostenning 4y ago
I had pericarditis (which i initially thought was myocarditis until I had an MRI) shortly after vaccination. People on this forum literally urged me to go get a booster despite my experience. The overzealous opinions go both ways. How about people just do whats right for them and stop conforming to groupthink
mns 4y ago
Your comment shows just why people don't trust anything any more. Anything that you don't agree with is an enemy by the tone of your message, and dismissing any other opinion except the one that you hold by labelling it as "so called debates". Covid fatality is also age stratified. Besides, you might get it, you might not get it. The vaccines were mandated and people were made to get them to keep their jobs or to live their lives. People have different risk tolerance so it's normal that everyone out there has a different opinion.

c-cube 4y ago

Myocarditis is not the only risk when you get covid. You can't conclude that the vaccine is more dangerous than getting covid just based on this one effect; covid has many other dangerous effects on some people, such as destroying your lungs.