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All are free. And all are tier 2 solutions. "You can make Visual Studio work with elbow grease" isn't the way to convince anyone to jump on the MS developer ba

• jules 15y ago
  What makes you say they are "tier 2" solutions? The VCS integration is right into the file system. I personally like this much more than just IDE integration, but YMMV. CodeAnalyst is a state of the art profiler, even better than the one in paid VS versions. The only thing that's more advanced is Intel's vTune. The x64 compiler is definitely not "tier 2", since it is from the standard SDK and the same as you get with paid VS versions. You said that you needed those tools, so I tried to help. But this comment and your other comments make it clear that you don't really need them, you just want to prove a point.
  • nupark2 15y ago
    > You said that you needed those tools, so I tried to help. But this comment and your other comments make it clear that you don't really need them, you just want to prove a point. No, I do need them, though I looked up the answers when I ran into the issues. I made do, but the VSE/MSDN experience left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I'm mainly trying to prove a point, which is that VS Express is frustratingly hobbled, the non-hobbled version is unusually expensive, and that state of affairs is counter-productive to encouraging developer adoption. I'm using Microsoft's tools as a hobbyist whose day job is in running a growing desktop & mobile software development company. If they got me onboard, I'd be all that more likely to consider jumping on the Microsoft bandwagon.