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> And in Florida, military veterans without a bachelor’s degree can teach for up to five years using temporary certificates. That seems so weird. Why would the

> And in Florida, military veterans without a bachelor’s degree can teach for up to five years using temporary certificates. That seems so weird. Why would they have to stop after five years of teaching? Shouldn't they be better at it by that point? https://www.fldoe.org/veterans/ https://www.fldoe.org/veterans/ They're trying to strongly push them to finish their bachelors (which they must have started), but what an odd program.

bobro 4y ago
From your link, it looks like they have a criterion requiring that the vet has about half a bachelor degree already (60 credits), so it makes sense as a fast pass for college students or an incentive for a near grad dropout to go back and finish.
rayiner 4y ago
The page you linked explains the rationale: > Veterans who successfully obtain their 5-year temporary teaching certificate will be assigned a mentor teacher for a minimum of two years to support their classroom teaching endeavors. They must also earn their bachelor’s degree during the 5-year period to be eligible for a full professional certificate; the temporary certificate cannot be renewed once it expires. It’s a temporary pathway for veterans to work as teachers while finishing a bachelor’s degree. (This has been widely misreported in the media.)
Maursault 4y ago
Florida only requires substitute teachers have a high school diploma and be trained in the school district’s school safety policies and procedures, ethics, professional responsibilities and liability laws. I strongly suspect the issue in states claiming a shortage of teachers is due to low salaries. Rather than raise salaries to attract talent, they're lowering hiring standards.
socialismisok 4y ago
Also, what makes soldiers good teachers? Why would we say veterans should get a pass in this particular arena?
- stjohnswarts 4y ago
  fetishism of the military in America, especially the deep south
- Ferrotin 4y ago
  Only 29% of Americans 17-24 are eligible to become a soldier so that makes them a more exclusive class than those eligible to be teachers. Also they have intelligible resumes providing evidence of past job performance.
  - socialismisok 4y ago
    - Ferrotin 4y ago
      Teaching is not an advanced skill, so I have to reject the premise of your question.
      - socialismisok 4y ago
        Clearly you have never taught, especially young people.
    - cafard 4y ago
      Don't know. But a considerable part of "I was trained to take responsibility in serious, perhaps life-threatening situations" overlaps. And I suppose that the chances are that anyone who achieved NCO rank has experience teaching others.

bobro 4y ago

From your link, it looks like they have a criterion requiring that the vet has about half a bachelor degree already (60 credits), so it makes sense as a fast pass for college students or an incentive for a near grad dropout to go back and finish.

rayiner 4y ago

The page you linked explains the rationale: > Veterans who successfully obtain their 5-year temporary teaching certificate will be assigned a mentor teacher for a minimum of two years to support their classroom teaching endeavors. They must also earn their bachelor’s degree during the 5-year period to be eligible for a full professional certificate; the temporary certificate cannot be renewed once it expires. It’s a temporary pathway for veterans to work as teachers while finishing a bachelor’s degree. (This has been widely misreported in the media.)

Maursault 4y ago

Florida only requires substitute teachers have a high school diploma and be trained in the school district’s school safety policies and procedures, ethics, professional responsibilities and liability laws. I strongly suspect the issue in states claiming a shortage of teachers is due to low salaries. Rather than raise salaries to attract talent, they're lowering hiring standards.

socialismisok 4y ago

Also, what makes soldiers good teachers? Why would we say veterans should get a pass in this particular arena?

stjohnswarts 4y ago
fetishism of the military in America, especially the deep south
Ferrotin 4y ago
Only 29% of Americans 17-24 are eligible to become a soldier so that makes them a more exclusive class than those eligible to be teachers. Also they have intelligible resumes providing evidence of past job performance.
- socialismisok 4y ago
  - Ferrotin 4y ago
    Teaching is not an advanced skill, so I have to reject the premise of your question.
    - socialismisok 4y ago
      Clearly you have never taught, especially young people.
  - cafard 4y ago
    Don't know. But a considerable part of "I was trained to take responsibility in serious, perhaps life-threatening situations" overlaps. And I suppose that the chances are that anyone who achieved NCO rank has experience teaching others.