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I’m an Anglican priest, and I can attest to this! We used to buy the Eucharistic hosts produced by the Institute for the Deaf at Sint-Michielsgestel in Holland

I’m an Anglican priest, and I can attest to this! We used to buy the Eucharistic hosts produced by the Institute for the Deaf at Sint-Michielsgestel in Holland (via our local church supplier). They were lovely. The priest’s hosts had a variety of designs (e.g., the Crucifix, the IHS monogram, even the Pelican). Their texture was nice: not too thick, not too gummy (less likely to stick to the roof of your mouth!). Plus, the proceeds from the sales of the hosts went to supporting the work of the Institute. Alas, sometime in the past year-and-a-half, the Institute stopped producing hosts, so we now have to use Cavanagh. They’re fine, as far as it goes, but a little too chewy for my taste, and the only design available is a cross. But it was always nice knowing that the bread we were using at the Eucharist was helping to support a worthy cause. It seemed to reinforce what the Eucharist is about in the first place.

aeneasmackenzie 4y ago
> I'm an anglican priest > reinforce what the Eucharist is about in the first place What would that be? I mean to you. I am Catholic and I am entirely aware of what it is about to us. I am not trying to dunk on you or start an argument.
- patmorgan23 4y ago
  Remembering and embodying the ideals of Christ, by loving your neighbor and taking care of your community?
  - exolymph 4y ago
    Catholic commenter is probably alluding to transubstantiation, the metaphysical transformation of bread and wine into Christ's body and blood, and asking whether that's also an Anglican thing. That's my interpretation.
- cbfrench 4y ago
  For me, what’s it’s primarily “about,” of course, is the making present in an unbloodied manner the eternal and propitious Sacrifice of Christ, “proclaim[ing] the Lord’s death until he comes” (1 Cor 11:26). And in the Eucharist we receive the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ truly present under the species of bread and wine. I would imagine that our Eucharistic theologies are generally not dissimilar. But what I meant by that particular comment was that there was a fitting consonance between using bread whose proceeds went toward helping those in need and the works of love and mercy to which the Eucharistic Lord calls us. Edit: And I certainly didn’t read any dunking into your question! Anglican Eucharistic theology is sort of all over the place. The vast majority of Anglicans adhere to some understanding of the Real Presence (and the Anglican theological tradition has generally tended to exclude memorialist understandings of the Eucharist, fwiw). I tend to have a very “Anglo-Catholic” sacramental theology.
  - User23 4y ago
    With full respect for your freedom of conscience, should you ever wish to discern whether to become Catholic the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter[1] makes retaining many if not the majority of your Anglo-Catholic traditions possible. They permit married priests and use a liturgy that is strongly influenced by the Book of Common Prayer while being in full communion with Rome. In fact, the chaplain for Catholic Answers is an Anglican priest who converted[2]. I find the segments where he’s on quite interesting. Many people are surprised to learn that there are Catholic priests who are married with children! [1] https://ordinariate.net/ https://ordinariate.net/ [2] https://www.catholic.com/profile/fr-samuel-keyes https://www.catholic.com/profile/fr-samuel-keyes
    - walrus01 4y ago
      Serious question, but isn't anything that is a "married priest" not actual catholicism, as it would be recognized and approved by church HQ in Rome? I'm confused because it does seem somehow officially okay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Ordinariate_of_the_Chair_of_Saint_Peter?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Ordinariate_of_the_Ch...
      - the_jesus_villa 4y ago
        Not answering your question but Patricia Lockwood (one of my favorite authors) wrote a very amusing memoir called Priestdaddy about growing up with a father who was a Catholic priest (having converted from Anglicanism I believe). The book also doesn't really answer your question, but it's fantastic despite the awful name.
      - aeneasmackenzie 4y ago
        Clerical Celibacy is a disciple rather than a dogma. It is especially prominent in the Latin rite. There are other rites in the Roman Catholic Church and some of them have married priests. When priests convert to Catholicism they are usually allowed to remain priests if they wish. They often have to be actually ordained. If they were married and ordained both stick. Neither is reversible. If they are married and "ordained" they can still be ordained.
- quercusa 4y ago
  Not to speak for an Anglican, but the 39 Articles state: XXVIII. Of the Lord's Supper. The Supper of the Lord is not only a sign of the love that Christians ought to have among themselves one to another, but rather it is a Sacrament of our Redemption by Christ's death: insomuch that to such as rightly, worthily, and with faith, receive the same, the Bread which we break is a lpartaking of the Body of Christ; and likewise the Cup of Blessing is a partaking of the Blood of Christ. Transubstantiation (or the change of the substance of Bread and Wine) in the Supper of the Lord, cannot be proved by Holy Writ; but is repugnant to the plain words of Scripture, overthroweth the nature of a Sacrament, and hath given occasion to many superstitions. The Body of Christ is given, taken, and eaten, in the Supper, only after an heavenly and spiritual manner. And the mean whereby the Body of Christ is received and eaten in the Supper, is Faith. The Sacrament of the Lord's Supper was not by Christ's ordinance reserved, carried about, lifted up, or worshipped.
  - cbfrench 4y ago
    Of course, the real question is what status the 39 Articles have in Anglican theology. They’re not a confessional document in the same way as the confessions you find in Lutheran or Calvinist traditions. (That tends not to be the Anglican style of doing theology, which tends to be much less systematic.) That isn’t to say they’re not instructive, just that their status as an authoritative statement is vexed and somewhat dependent on jurisdiction. They’re a part of the tradition, but they need to be contextualized alongside the rest of the tradition to be understood and valued properly, I believe. A better guide to our Eucharistic theology is the Book of Common Prayer. (Really, Books of Common Prayer, since each national church has its own.) Our Eucharistic liturgies tend to emphasize a “high” view of what transpires in the Mass.
- Simon_O_Rourke 4y ago
  > I am Catholic and I am entirely aware of what it is about to us. Well, can you enlighten the rest of us?
- Maursault 4y ago
  hoc facite in Meam commemorationem Of course, He spoke a Galilean dialect of Aramaic, but even in clumsy translation to any language it remains a strong candidate for the most brilliant and, simultaneously, the most poetic idea ever spoken aloud.
1letterunixname 4y ago
D: That's no good. I wonder why they quit. If I might inject a tangent: I was dismayed when LaserMonks, the laser printer toner cartridge recycler, went out of business some years back. I'd much rather buy products from non-profits and worker co-ops than from corporations who don't have the same values or motivations.
MerelyMortal 4y ago
> I’m an Anglican priest HN never ceases to amaze me, especially with the vocations of its users.
- geerlingguy 4y ago
  As a Catholic who was studying to be a priest a long time ago (but that didn't end up happening), I've learned that in most tech circles, just mentioning anything even tangential to religion is a quick way to get shunned, or at minimum turn a conversation pretty awkward. Therefore unless explicitly asked or warranted, it rarely is mentioned.
  - augustuspolius 4y ago
    I have a very different experience. In all tech companies I worked at (Bay Area) there were very many Indian immigrants, most of whom were religious. In fact, I have never met an atheist from India. We would frequently discuss religion, philosophy, religious traditions - especially after work or on business trips. I must add that I am an atheist, which was never an obstacle to our discussions.
    - aldebran 4y ago
      Now you have. Lol
      - augustuspolius 4y ago
        Oh haha, that's great! Nice to meet you! I am curious... are you a first generation atheist or were brought up in a non-religious environment?
        deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
    - laniakean 4y ago
      Now you have met another one. Although I am a migrant in Europe and not in US.
Defitio 4y ago
Why are you reading hn? Shouldn't all the stories here should lead you to a different path? Questioning rationally your beliefs?
- cbfrench 4y ago
  The presumption of these questions is astonishing. You know nothing about me, and certainly not the extent to which I’ve “rationally questioned” my beliefs. (Of course, I recognize the laughably invidious premise of your question, which is that, had I truly and “rationally” done so, I would cease to be a Christian. Give me a break.) A recommendation: Try practicing a little intellectual humility. It will get you farther with people. Have a good one.
arbitrandomuser 4y ago
Idk what you talking about , it all tastes like flesh to me

aeneasmackenzie 4y ago

> I'm an anglican priest > reinforce what the Eucharist is about in the first place What would that be? I mean to you. I am Catholic and I am entirely aware of what it is about to us. I am not trying to dunk on you or start an argument.

patmorgan23 4y ago
Remembering and embodying the ideals of Christ, by loving your neighbor and taking care of your community?
- exolymph 4y ago
  Catholic commenter is probably alluding to transubstantiation, the metaphysical transformation of bread and wine into Christ's body and blood, and asking whether that's also an Anglican thing. That's my interpretation.
cbfrench 4y ago
For me, what’s it’s primarily “about,” of course, is the making present in an unbloodied manner the eternal and propitious Sacrifice of Christ, “proclaim[ing] the Lord’s death until he comes” (1 Cor 11:26). And in the Eucharist we receive the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ truly present under the species of bread and wine. I would imagine that our Eucharistic theologies are generally not dissimilar. But what I meant by that particular comment was that there was a fitting consonance between using bread whose proceeds went toward helping those in need and the works of love and mercy to which the Eucharistic Lord calls us. Edit: And I certainly didn’t read any dunking into your question! Anglican Eucharistic theology is sort of all over the place. The vast majority of Anglicans adhere to some understanding of the Real Presence (and the Anglican theological tradition has generally tended to exclude memorialist understandings of the Eucharist, fwiw). I tend to have a very “Anglo-Catholic” sacramental theology.
- User23 4y ago
  With full respect for your freedom of conscience, should you ever wish to discern whether to become Catholic the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter[1] makes retaining many if not the majority of your Anglo-Catholic traditions possible. They permit married priests and use a liturgy that is strongly influenced by the Book of Common Prayer while being in full communion with Rome. In fact, the chaplain for Catholic Answers is an Anglican priest who converted[2]. I find the segments where he’s on quite interesting. Many people are surprised to learn that there are Catholic priests who are married with children! [1] https://ordinariate.net/ https://ordinariate.net/ [2] https://www.catholic.com/profile/fr-samuel-keyes https://www.catholic.com/profile/fr-samuel-keyes
  - walrus01 4y ago
    Serious question, but isn't anything that is a "married priest" not actual catholicism, as it would be recognized and approved by church HQ in Rome? I'm confused because it does seem somehow officially okay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Ordinariate_of_the_Chair_of_Saint_Peter?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Ordinariate_of_the_Ch...
    - the_jesus_villa 4y ago
      Not answering your question but Patricia Lockwood (one of my favorite authors) wrote a very amusing memoir called Priestdaddy about growing up with a father who was a Catholic priest (having converted from Anglicanism I believe). The book also doesn't really answer your question, but it's fantastic despite the awful name.
    - aeneasmackenzie 4y ago
      Clerical Celibacy is a disciple rather than a dogma. It is especially prominent in the Latin rite. There are other rites in the Roman Catholic Church and some of them have married priests. When priests convert to Catholicism they are usually allowed to remain priests if they wish. They often have to be actually ordained. If they were married and ordained both stick. Neither is reversible. If they are married and "ordained" they can still be ordained.
quercusa 4y ago
Not to speak for an Anglican, but the 39 Articles state: XXVIII. Of the Lord's Supper. The Supper of the Lord is not only a sign of the love that Christians ought to have among themselves one to another, but rather it is a Sacrament of our Redemption by Christ's death: insomuch that to such as rightly, worthily, and with faith, receive the same, the Bread which we break is a lpartaking of the Body of Christ; and likewise the Cup of Blessing is a partaking of the Blood of Christ. Transubstantiation (or the change of the substance of Bread and Wine) in the Supper of the Lord, cannot be proved by Holy Writ; but is repugnant to the plain words of Scripture, overthroweth the nature of a Sacrament, and hath given occasion to many superstitions. The Body of Christ is given, taken, and eaten, in the Supper, only after an heavenly and spiritual manner. And the mean whereby the Body of Christ is received and eaten in the Supper, is Faith. The Sacrament of the Lord's Supper was not by Christ's ordinance reserved, carried about, lifted up, or worshipped.
- cbfrench 4y ago
  Of course, the real question is what status the 39 Articles have in Anglican theology. They’re not a confessional document in the same way as the confessions you find in Lutheran or Calvinist traditions. (That tends not to be the Anglican style of doing theology, which tends to be much less systematic.) That isn’t to say they’re not instructive, just that their status as an authoritative statement is vexed and somewhat dependent on jurisdiction. They’re a part of the tradition, but they need to be contextualized alongside the rest of the tradition to be understood and valued properly, I believe. A better guide to our Eucharistic theology is the Book of Common Prayer. (Really, Books of Common Prayer, since each national church has its own.) Our Eucharistic liturgies tend to emphasize a “high” view of what transpires in the Mass.
Simon_O_Rourke 4y ago
> I am Catholic and I am entirely aware of what it is about to us. Well, can you enlighten the rest of us?
Maursault 4y ago
hoc facite in Meam commemorationem Of course, He spoke a Galilean dialect of Aramaic, but even in clumsy translation to any language it remains a strong candidate for the most brilliant and, simultaneously, the most poetic idea ever spoken aloud.

1letterunixname 4y ago

D: That's no good. I wonder why they quit. If I might inject a tangent: I was dismayed when LaserMonks, the laser printer toner cartridge recycler, went out of business some years back. I'd much rather buy products from non-profits and worker co-ops than from corporations who don't have the same values or motivations.

MerelyMortal 4y ago

> I’m an Anglican priest HN never ceases to amaze me, especially with the vocations of its users.

geerlingguy 4y ago
As a Catholic who was studying to be a priest a long time ago (but that didn't end up happening), I've learned that in most tech circles, just mentioning anything even tangential to religion is a quick way to get shunned, or at minimum turn a conversation pretty awkward. Therefore unless explicitly asked or warranted, it rarely is mentioned.
- augustuspolius 4y ago
  I have a very different experience. In all tech companies I worked at (Bay Area) there were very many Indian immigrants, most of whom were religious. In fact, I have never met an atheist from India. We would frequently discuss religion, philosophy, religious traditions - especially after work or on business trips. I must add that I am an atheist, which was never an obstacle to our discussions.
  - aldebran 4y ago
    Now you have. Lol
    - augustuspolius 4y ago
      Oh haha, that's great! Nice to meet you! I am curious... are you a first generation atheist or were brought up in a non-religious environment?
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
  - laniakean 4y ago
    Now you have met another one. Although I am a migrant in Europe and not in US.

Defitio 4y ago

Why are you reading hn? Shouldn't all the stories here should lead you to a different path? Questioning rationally your beliefs?

cbfrench 4y ago
The presumption of these questions is astonishing. You know nothing about me, and certainly not the extent to which I’ve “rationally questioned” my beliefs. (Of course, I recognize the laughably invidious premise of your question, which is that, had I truly and “rationally” done so, I would cease to be a Christian. Give me a break.) A recommendation: Try practicing a little intellectual humility. It will get you farther with people. Have a good one.

arbitrandomuser 4y ago

Idk what you talking about , it all tastes like flesh to me