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To me, this article misses the point, but only slightly. If we compare the proposed Photoshop for text and the actual Photoshop for images, those are very diffe

To me, this article misses the point, but only slightly. If we compare the proposed Photoshop for text and the actual Photoshop for images, those are very different tools in how they work with their respective mediums. Photoshop doesn’t use AI models to generate new things for the artist, photographer, whoever (it does have generation of course, but not in the same way). A tool like Photoshop for text, in the way described, seems more like a writing aid than a writing tool; something I can give vague commands like “make this paragraph more academic” (whatever that means), and it’ll spit out something approximating the academic style it analyzed. Whereas “auto balance the levels of this image” is much more concrete in what it means, there’s no approximation of “style.” I feel like Photoshop for text should be an editor that cares more about the structure of stories and who’s in them, with ways to organize big chunks in easy ways, rather than something that generates content for you.

kepano 4y ago
The article is more about user experience than implementation. When you apply an effect in Photoshop you can change all relevant pixels at once. Whereas we don’t have good tools to change all words in a document at once (while retaining the intended meaning)
- consumer451 4y ago
  I get your point, but your comment made me search for a Photoshop Stable Diffusion plug-in. I had no idea. I’m decent with Photoshop but have not had a need for it lately. This makes me want to fire it back up. Each video is 1-2 minutes long. Mind blown again. https://youtu.be/XdctF1uTLBo https://youtu.be/XdctF1uTLBo https://youtu.be/mn1PV6HqXGU https://youtu.be/mn1PV6HqXGU https://youtu.be/Wo6ZDYFCWTY https://youtu.be/Wo6ZDYFCWTY
- fragmede 4y ago
  Oh that would be cool. Write a paragraph about a red ball, then halfway through, decide it's a blue ball. The editor then highlights all occurrences of the variable and rewrites them for you. Like the "Refactor local variable name" bit in VSCode.
teruakohatu 4y ago
> Photoshop doesn’t use AI models to generate new things for the artist, photographer, whoever It certainly does have this, such as tools to remove objects and paint over them as if they were not there, automatic sky replacement (replace a cloudy sky with a sunset), super resolution (AI up scaling) and a range of what they call 'Neural Filters'. You want your low quality boring midday image of some famous bridge to be a high resolution, taken during sunrise without that person riding a bicycle? Photoshop will do it with very little user skill or input. Some beta features include style transfer, makeup transfer and automatic smile enhancment.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  Yeah, but nobody is buying Photoshop for the inpainting features. Photoshop's bread-and-butter is raster graphics tools, and almost all of them function deterministically.
  - warkdarrior 4y ago
    Not sure what you mean by "deterministically", but most models are deterministic during inference: given the same input or prompt, they'll generate the same output.
    - pfortuny 4y ago
      Are they? I thought there was always a kind of “random parameter” or random step midway? Hope this question is not too dumb!
      - ihateolives 4y ago
        Usually not, perhaps noise filters, but mostly not. There was amusing case of reversing twirl filter a while ago: https://boingboing.net/2007/10/08/untwirling-photo-of.html https://boingboing.net/2007/10/08/untwirling-photo-of.html
        pfortuny 4y ago
fragmede 4y ago
Tense and plurals is one that would that seems like it would be helpful for a computer to keep consistent while you edit, so when you edit the subject to be plural from singular, it tacks on the "s" onto the verb for you. If you had "Families enjoy this restaurant" And started typing and changed "Families" to "our family" this "photoshop for text" would change "enjoy" to "enjoys" for you. Enough little facets like that, I could see being useful.
- potatoman22 4y ago
  It's like content-aware text refactoring
  - kleiba 4y ago
    Clippy on steroids.

kepano 4y ago

The article is more about user experience than implementation. When you apply an effect in Photoshop you can change all relevant pixels at once. Whereas we don’t have good tools to change all words in a document at once (while retaining the intended meaning)

consumer451 4y ago
I get your point, but your comment made me search for a Photoshop Stable Diffusion plug-in. I had no idea. I’m decent with Photoshop but have not had a need for it lately. This makes me want to fire it back up. Each video is 1-2 minutes long. Mind blown again. https://youtu.be/XdctF1uTLBo https://youtu.be/XdctF1uTLBo https://youtu.be/mn1PV6HqXGU https://youtu.be/mn1PV6HqXGU https://youtu.be/Wo6ZDYFCWTY https://youtu.be/Wo6ZDYFCWTY
fragmede 4y ago
Oh that would be cool. Write a paragraph about a red ball, then halfway through, decide it's a blue ball. The editor then highlights all occurrences of the variable and rewrites them for you. Like the "Refactor local variable name" bit in VSCode.

teruakohatu 4y ago

> Photoshop doesn’t use AI models to generate new things for the artist, photographer, whoever It certainly does have this, such as tools to remove objects and paint over them as if they were not there, automatic sky replacement (replace a cloudy sky with a sunset), super resolution (AI up scaling) and a range of what they call 'Neural Filters'. You want your low quality boring midday image of some famous bridge to be a high resolution, taken during sunrise without that person riding a bicycle? Photoshop will do it with very little user skill or input. Some beta features include style transfer, makeup transfer and automatic smile enhancment.

smoldesu 4y ago
Yeah, but nobody is buying Photoshop for the inpainting features. Photoshop's bread-and-butter is raster graphics tools, and almost all of them function deterministically.
- warkdarrior 4y ago
  Not sure what you mean by "deterministically", but most models are deterministic during inference: given the same input or prompt, they'll generate the same output.
  - pfortuny 4y ago
    Are they? I thought there was always a kind of “random parameter” or random step midway? Hope this question is not too dumb!
    - ihateolives 4y ago
      Usually not, perhaps noise filters, but mostly not. There was amusing case of reversing twirl filter a while ago: https://boingboing.net/2007/10/08/untwirling-photo-of.html https://boingboing.net/2007/10/08/untwirling-photo-of.html
      - pfortuny 4y ago

fragmede 4y ago

Tense and plurals is one that would that seems like it would be helpful for a computer to keep consistent while you edit, so when you edit the subject to be plural from singular, it tacks on the "s" onto the verb for you. If you had "Families enjoy this restaurant" And started typing and changed "Families" to "our family" this "photoshop for text" would change "enjoy" to "enjoys" for you. Enough little facets like that, I could see being useful.

potatoman22 4y ago
It's like content-aware text refactoring
- kleiba 4y ago
  Clippy on steroids.