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For anyone curious about any background on Phil Haack. Here are his notable accomplishments. - MS Lead on ASP.net MVC framework vers. 1 through 3 (current)

For anyone curious about any background on Phil Haack. Here are his notable accomplishments. - MS Lead on ASP.net MVC framework vers. 1 through 3 (current) - Lead on the NuGet package manager framework for Visual Studio - This Developer's Life Podcast with Scott Hanselman

hkarthik 15y ago
I think This Developer's Life is hosted by Rob Conery.
- drmohundro 15y ago
  Both Scott Hanselman and Rob Conery collaborate on This Developer's Life.
  - haacked 15y ago
    Yep, I had nothing to do with TDL. Wish I could claim it, but I can't. I mean, I guess I could and lie about it, but no. Won't do that. Not yet anyways. :)
    - shanselman 15y ago
      You are an accomplished ballroom dancer, though.
      - jongalloway2 15y ago
        He's not that good. Doesn't lead and won't follow. Dead weight most of the time, although pretty good with the dips.
      - phatboyslim 15y ago
        Honest mistake guys, I've listened to almost every episode and had no idea. All the jokes about the Hawaiian shirts and I've been thinking of the wrong person.
robconery 15y ago
Phil also invented C#, the Faux Hawk, and Daft Punk
- bootload 15y ago
  "... Phil also invented C# ..." Anders Hejlsberg is credited as being the principal designer & architect of C# at Microsoft [0] and I don't see this listed on Phil Haacks resume. [1] [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Hejlsberg#At_Microsoft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Hejlsberg#At_Microsoft [1] http://haacked.com/Docs/PhillipHaack_Resume.html http://haacked.com/Docs/PhillipHaack_Resume.html
  - JonnieCache 15y ago
    Being as he also neither invented the fauxhawk, nor has he written any mediocre parisian disco-house, I'm guessing it was some sort of joke.
    - scottkduncan 15y ago
      When presented the opportunity you chose to take a dig at Daft Punk, but not the fauxhawk? Some things I will never understand...
      - JonnieCache 15y ago
        I was going to have a go at that as well, (mainly the word, seriously, who says fauk-hawke?) but I thought that'd be laying it on a bit thick. The whole 'wacky french house' thing has been done better. http://soundcloud.com/para-one/canblaster-clockworks-para-one http://soundcloud.com/para-one/canblaster-clockworks-para-on... http://soundcloud.com/panteros666/panteros666-javelin-o http://soundcloud.com/panteros666/panteros666-javelin-o
        SideburnsOfDoom 15y ago
        > who says fauk-hawke It rhymes with "Mohawk". "Faux" is the French word for fake, pronounced like "fow". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux Except using a French word in the context is pretentious and phoney. Maybe there's a word for that...
gospelwut 15y ago
I think I owe this man some kind of expensive liquor for MVC--especially MVC3. I truly loathed ASP.NET projects until MVC3. Some will argue that people use it wrong and/or the traditional Web Forms have their advantages, but I can't really think of many situations where I'd rather do it the old way.
- vyrotek 15y ago
  You and me both. And I've done my part try to convert every other WebForms developer that I meet. Things are just awesome now with MVC3.
- phsr 15y ago
  One situation, when the CMS you are working with doesn't support MVC yet
- WickyNilliams 15y ago
  I owe him more than that, MVC is epic, and has pretty much fuelled my love for .NET. If it were scientifically possible (Arnie didn't really father a child in Junior, right?) I would have his baby. I'm nice like that. But alas he sought pastures greener and I am happy for him. My dabbling in git from my windows machine hasn't been smooth to say the least. Hopefully Haack's new role will remedy that, and for that I will fund further research into male pregnancy.
throwmeaway2 15y ago
Github is my social network. I wake up into it, i follow it, push to it during the day, and I survey it before sleep. I love Github (in fact i'm inlove with Github). I depend on Github. I don't do facebook, g+ or twitter for socializing. I used to admire Haack aswell. He's a great guy. However I fell out of love with .net. I am a polyglot programmer, with strong background in .net. To understand these Haack's "accomplishments", please look at history (google). There is nothing genious about MVC3, towards other MVC web frameworks, and its 'advanced' 3 version, it sucks really bad in testing. (I'm also an author of a .net web framework that pits against it pretty well in this regard). * MVC - monorail -> rails. * NuGet - nupak - nu -> really rubygems. * podcast - well, whatever. I wouldn't like to fall out of love with Github.
- jondot 15y ago
  Your claims aren't to the point at all. Even if he didn't come up with those things originally, he introduced them to a massive community of developers, that's already one great step!. Being a great guy as he is, I'm sure he'll push to positive in anything he'd do!.
- bad_user 15y ago
  I'm pretty sure that .NET developers won't take away from its awesomeness. Quite the contrary, I think that if more .NET developers are opening up to how things work outside of their environment, we'll see a lot more openness and collaboration coming from .NET devs. And then maybe this whole us versus them thing will stop. There is nothing genious about MVC3 As a Python developer, I don't think there's anything genius about Ruby on Rails either. It's just a bunch of borrowed features that were added with good taste + marketing + community enhancements. Overall the whole package is great, but it does stand on the shoulders of giants nonetheless. Borrowing stuff is not a sin - if anything I blame Microsoft for the often displayed NIH syndrome.
phatboyslim 15y ago
I'm unable to edit my blunderous original post, but as others have pointed out, Rob Conery is the host of This Developer's Life (an excellent podcast) and not Phil Haack. Honest mistake.

hkarthik 15y ago

I think This Developer's Life is hosted by Rob Conery.

drmohundro 15y ago
Both Scott Hanselman and Rob Conery collaborate on This Developer's Life.
- haacked 15y ago
  Yep, I had nothing to do with TDL. Wish I could claim it, but I can't. I mean, I guess I could and lie about it, but no. Won't do that. Not yet anyways. :)
  - shanselman 15y ago
    You are an accomplished ballroom dancer, though.
    - jongalloway2 15y ago
      He's not that good. Doesn't lead and won't follow. Dead weight most of the time, although pretty good with the dips.
    - phatboyslim 15y ago
      Honest mistake guys, I've listened to almost every episode and had no idea. All the jokes about the Hawaiian shirts and I've been thinking of the wrong person.

robconery 15y ago

Phil also invented C#, the Faux Hawk, and Daft Punk

bootload 15y ago
"... Phil also invented C# ..." Anders Hejlsberg is credited as being the principal designer & architect of C# at Microsoft [0] and I don't see this listed on Phil Haacks resume. [1] [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Hejlsberg#At_Microsoft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Hejlsberg#At_Microsoft [1] http://haacked.com/Docs/PhillipHaack_Resume.html http://haacked.com/Docs/PhillipHaack_Resume.html
- JonnieCache 15y ago
  Being as he also neither invented the fauxhawk, nor has he written any mediocre parisian disco-house, I'm guessing it was some sort of joke.
  - scottkduncan 15y ago
    When presented the opportunity you chose to take a dig at Daft Punk, but not the fauxhawk? Some things I will never understand...
    - JonnieCache 15y ago
      I was going to have a go at that as well, (mainly the word, seriously, who says fauk-hawke?) but I thought that'd be laying it on a bit thick. The whole 'wacky french house' thing has been done better. http://soundcloud.com/para-one/canblaster-clockworks-para-one http://soundcloud.com/para-one/canblaster-clockworks-para-on... http://soundcloud.com/panteros666/panteros666-javelin-o http://soundcloud.com/panteros666/panteros666-javelin-o
      - SideburnsOfDoom 15y ago
        > who says fauk-hawke It rhymes with "Mohawk". "Faux" is the French word for fake, pronounced like "fow". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux Except using a French word in the context is pretentious and phoney. Maybe there's a word for that...

gospelwut 15y ago

I think I owe this man some kind of expensive liquor for MVC--especially MVC3. I truly loathed ASP.NET projects until MVC3. Some will argue that people use it wrong and/or the traditional Web Forms have their advantages, but I can't really think of many situations where I'd rather do it the old way.

vyrotek 15y ago
You and me both. And I've done my part try to convert every other WebForms developer that I meet. Things are just awesome now with MVC3.
phsr 15y ago
One situation, when the CMS you are working with doesn't support MVC yet
WickyNilliams 15y ago
I owe him more than that, MVC is epic, and has pretty much fuelled my love for .NET. If it were scientifically possible (Arnie didn't really father a child in Junior, right?) I would have his baby. I'm nice like that. But alas he sought pastures greener and I am happy for him. My dabbling in git from my windows machine hasn't been smooth to say the least. Hopefully Haack's new role will remedy that, and for that I will fund further research into male pregnancy.

throwmeaway2 15y ago

Github is my social network. I wake up into it, i follow it, push to it during the day, and I survey it before sleep. I love Github (in fact i'm inlove with Github). I depend on Github. I don't do facebook, g+ or twitter for socializing. I used to admire Haack aswell. He's a great guy. However I fell out of love with .net. I am a polyglot programmer, with strong background in .net. To understand these Haack's "accomplishments", please look at history (google). There is nothing genious about MVC3, towards other MVC web frameworks, and its 'advanced' 3 version, it sucks really bad in testing. (I'm also an author of a .net web framework that pits against it pretty well in this regard). * MVC - monorail -> rails. * NuGet - nupak - nu -> really rubygems. * podcast - well, whatever. I wouldn't like to fall out of love with Github.

jondot 15y ago
Your claims aren't to the point at all. Even if he didn't come up with those things originally, he introduced them to a massive community of developers, that's already one great step!. Being a great guy as he is, I'm sure he'll push to positive in anything he'd do!.
bad_user 15y ago
I'm pretty sure that .NET developers won't take away from its awesomeness. Quite the contrary, I think that if more .NET developers are opening up to how things work outside of their environment, we'll see a lot more openness and collaboration coming from .NET devs. And then maybe this whole us versus them thing will stop. There is nothing genious about MVC3 As a Python developer, I don't think there's anything genius about Ruby on Rails either. It's just a bunch of borrowed features that were added with good taste + marketing + community enhancements. Overall the whole package is great, but it does stand on the shoulders of giants nonetheless. Borrowing stuff is not a sin - if anything I blame Microsoft for the often displayed NIH syndrome.

phatboyslim 15y ago

I'm unable to edit my blunderous original post, but as others have pointed out, Rob Conery is the host of This Developer's Life (an excellent podcast) and not Phil Haack. Honest mistake.