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Safe from traffic is one thing. Presumably there aren't homeless encampments and junkies walking around. My daughters high school teenagers are mostly driven to
by rr888 4y ago
Safe from traffic is one thing. Presumably there aren't homeless encampments and junkies walking around. My daughters high school teenagers are mostly driven to keep them safe. Last week a student was mugged on the way home had her stuff stolen.
- trasz 4y ago
- rr888 4y agoYes how'd you guess? I dont know if the mugger was homeless or a junkie or a regular thief.
- dang 4y agoWould you please stop posting flamewar comments and political/ideological battle comments? It seems to be the bulk of what you're posting here. That's abusive: it's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. The site guidelines specifically ask you not to do this, so please stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Tiktaalik 4y agomaybe the parent should not use demeaning and inhumane language like "junkie" just a thought
- dang 4y agoYes, that was arguably provocative. But replies should reduce provocation, not amplify it. Replies that reduce provocation help steer threads back onto the track of thoughtful conversation. Replies that amplify provocation help derail threads into flamewars, which are predictable, nasty, and tedious.
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- tiku 4y agoThis almost never happens in the Netherlands. Also the routes to and from schools are so safe because they all take that route. Worst thing that can happen is hitting someone else with your bike.
- semi-extrinsic 4y agoYes, it's a very correct observation that a well functioning society should also provide universal healthcare (including mental health), a social safety net that limits homelessness to the fullest extent possible, decriminalization and free safe treatment for hard drug addicts, and urban planning that encourages lively neighbourhoods around schools where there are always responsible adults close by.
- vlunkr 4y agoIn a perfect world yes. Unfortunately we can't pick up our schools and move them if it turns out to be a poor location.
- ricardobeat 4y agoThat's a very defeatist attitude. It's not about relocating schools. Public policy needs to change to reduce urban sprawl, stop producing homeless and criminals, and improve public transportation and livability to the point where walking to school is normal.
- vlunkr 4y agoI don’t consider it defeatist at all. Yeah we can do all those things, but we’re not going to do it tomorrow or do it right every time.
- Scarblac 4y agoYou can build new ones. Why always all this fatalism from US people when improvements are discussed? Richest country on Earth, nothing can be done about problems.
- vlunkr 4y agoThat’s quite the reduction of my statement.
- semi-extrinsic 4y ago
- einpoklum 4y agoIf there are pedestrians and cyclists around - which is indeed the case when children come to school or go back home - then nobody gets mugged, even if there are some junkies or homeless people also in the same neighborhood. First, because junkies and homeless people are not automatically violent (and the Netherlands has a lot less violent crime than the US); second, because there are too many witnesses; and third, because unless they're cycling, they're not on the bicycle path anyway.
- trasz 4y agoSo what makes you assume it was “homeless and junkies” who mugged them, and not some Christian republican human trash? (“Human trash” as a counterpoint to your “junkie” slur; also note I’m not really interested in _your_ response, I already know what you are; the point of this comment is to show dang’s skewed moderation criteria. Might not work this time, so I’ll continue doing it for a while, of course without annotating it.)
- dang 4y agoOk, since you're obviously not interested in using HN as intended, I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.