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> The American people are quite correct to be skeptical of a media industry corrupted by the ad revenue model, riven by partisanship When media actually relied

> The American people are quite correct to be skeptical of a media industry corrupted by the ad revenue model, riven by partisanship When media actually relied on ad revenue, it was not so partisans. Advertisers wanted bland stuff that appealed to everyone. It's the subscription model that drives partisanship. People want to pay to support stuff that they agree with.

fcsp 4y ago
There are a few [Citation needed] in here from my point of view
- amadeuspagel 4y ago
  This is an isolated demand for rigor[1]. You didn't demand a citation for the claim that the media is corrupted by ads, and the implication that that's related to partisanship. [1]: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demands-for-rigor/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demand...
  - fcsp 4y ago
    > When media actually relied on ad revenue, it was not so partisans. Do you have a source for this? > Advertisers wanted bland stuff that appealed to everyone. Do you have a source for this? From my point of view a larger audience will drive the price up so I fail to see a correlation. Also, a broader audience leads to less targeted audience, so that seems cost-ineffiecient > It's the subscription model that drives partisanship. Do you have a source for this? > People want to pay to support stuff that they agree with. Do you have a source for this? You are framing a bouquet of personal opinions as facts here.
    - klipklop 4y ago
      >From my point of view a larger audience will drive the price up so I fail to see a correlation. Also, a broader audience leads to less targeted audience, so that seems cost-ineffiecient Do you have a source for this? I don’t see you posting any evidence “debunking” these claims. Just more of your own opinion. Pretty annoying double standard in arguing.
hunglee2 4y ago
good argument, though I would counter by saying that partisanship is more to do with the decline of regional newspapers / broadcasters vs the nationals. Bigger market means you can afford to play to extremes to capture one edge of it, rather than cater for the whole
jl2718 4y ago
They’re now funded by investors at a loss. It doesn’t make accounting sense, but neither does politics. Media is power.
picsao 4y ago

fcsp 4y ago

There are a few [Citation needed] in here from my point of view

amadeuspagel 4y ago
This is an isolated demand for rigor[1]. You didn't demand a citation for the claim that the media is corrupted by ads, and the implication that that's related to partisanship. [1]: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demands-for-rigor/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demand...
- fcsp 4y ago
  > When media actually relied on ad revenue, it was not so partisans. Do you have a source for this? > Advertisers wanted bland stuff that appealed to everyone. Do you have a source for this? From my point of view a larger audience will drive the price up so I fail to see a correlation. Also, a broader audience leads to less targeted audience, so that seems cost-ineffiecient > It's the subscription model that drives partisanship. Do you have a source for this? > People want to pay to support stuff that they agree with. Do you have a source for this? You are framing a bouquet of personal opinions as facts here.
  - klipklop 4y ago
    >From my point of view a larger audience will drive the price up so I fail to see a correlation. Also, a broader audience leads to less targeted audience, so that seems cost-ineffiecient Do you have a source for this? I don’t see you posting any evidence “debunking” these claims. Just more of your own opinion. Pretty annoying double standard in arguing.

hunglee2 4y ago

good argument, though I would counter by saying that partisanship is more to do with the decline of regional newspapers / broadcasters vs the nationals. Bigger market means you can afford to play to extremes to capture one edge of it, rather than cater for the whole

jl2718 4y ago

They’re now funded by investors at a loss. It doesn’t make accounting sense, but neither does politics. Media is power.

picsao 4y ago