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Hypothetically... lets see, Assen has a population of 68,000 and that roughly matches Eau Claire, Wisconsin. So, hypothetically, lets wave a magic wand and red
by shagie 4y ago
Hypothetically... lets see, Assen has a population of 68,000 and that roughly matches Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
So, hypothetically, lets wave a magic wand and redesign Eau Claire to follow the same design plan as Assen.
Would you still have 2/3 of the kids biking to school?
Temperature for 2021: https://www.aos.wisc.edu/~sco/clim-history/stations/eau/eau-tts-2021.gif https://www.aos.wisc.edu/~sco/clim-history/stations/eau/eau-...
Cumulative snowfall for 2021: https://www.aos.wisc.edu/~sco/clim-history/stations/eau/eau-sts-2021-22.gif https://www.aos.wisc.edu/~sco/clim-history/stations/eau/eau-...
Going to weather spark to have a consistent source: https://weatherspark.com/y/11595/Average-Weather-in-Eau-Claire-Wisconsin-United-States-Year-Round https://weatherspark.com/y/11595/Average-Weather-in-Eau-Clai...
> The cold season lasts for 3.2 months, from November 28 to March 3, with an average daily high temperature below 36°F. The coldest month of the year in Eau Claire is January, with an average low of 9°F and high of 24°F.
> The snowy period of the year lasts for 5.4 months, from November 2 to April 15, with a sliding 31-day snowfall of at least 1.0 inches. The month with the most snow in Eau Claire is December, with an average snowfall of 4.5 inches.
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https://weatherspark.com/y/54846/Average-Weather-in-Assen-Netherlands-Year-Round https://weatherspark.com/y/54846/Average-Weather-in-Assen-Ne...
> The cold season lasts for 3.7 months, from November 19 to March 10, with an average daily high temperature below 46°F. The coldest month of the year in Assen is January, with an average low of 32°F and high of 40°F.
> The snowy period of the year lasts for 1.7 months, from December 14 to February 5, with a sliding 31-day snowfall of at least 1.0 inches. The month with the most snow in Assen is January, with an average snowfall of 1.3 inches.
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The biking design and participation is a wonderful design to aspire to... it isn't always practical in all climates.
Assen barely gets to freezing temperatures and has a dusting of snow.
If one says "oh, that's too far north"... then lets go to St. Louis. https://weatherspark.com/y/12083/Average-Weather-in-St.-Louis-Missouri-United-States-Year-Round https://weatherspark.com/y/12083/Average-Weather-in-St.-Loui...
> The cold season lasts for 3.0 months, from November 28 to February 28, with an average daily high temperature below 50°F. The coldest month of the year in St. Louis is January, with an average low of 25°F and high of 41°F.
> The snowy period of the year lasts for 3.7 months, from November 26 to March 17, with a sliding 31-day snowfall of at least 1.0 inches. The month with the most snow in St. Louis is January, with an average snowfall of 3.2 inches.
(with the cold season part, note the cold range dips quite a bit lower in St. Louis than Assen)
We could continue this with Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, Fargo, Missoula, Spokane, Salt Lake City... even if we could wave a magic wand and redesign the city to be perfectly bikeable it wouldn't have the participation like it does in Western Europe.
I'm not saying to ignore the effort to make those infrastructure changes (they'd be good), but rather try to avoid the implicit "the US is bad because so few cities are designed to allow 2/3 of the students to bike to school" because it is impossible to get there.
- jackvalentine 4y ago“Why Canadians Can't Bike in the Winter (but Finnish people can)” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhx-26GfCBU
- xani__ 4y ago
- jeffbee 4y ago
- shagie 4y agoI ride a traveler terratrike - I have difficulty with balance and so much prefer a trike. I've been to 40 states within the US, 5 Canadian provinces, Japan, England, Ireland, and Mexico. I would prefer people refrain from unsubstantiated attacks on my person.
- wishinghand 4y agoConsidering the fact that northern European folks in bike oriented cities can do it, I'm sure the folks in Eau Claire can prove themselves just as tough.
- shagie 4y agoMy point is that winters in the continental United States are significantly different than the winters in Northern Europe. The infrastructure appropriate for one isn't necessarily appropriate for the other. For what it's worth, Oslo is still 10 degrees F (5.5 degrees C) warmer in the middle of winter than Eau Claire. London, Ontario (used in the video) is further south than Madison, WI. > The cold season lasts for 3.3 months, from December 3 to March 13, with an average daily high temperature below 38°F. The coldest month of the year in London is January, with an average low of 18°F and high of 29°F. It's a bit nippier than Assen but its quite a bit warmer than Eau Claire in the winter.