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I think this is, to some extent, Google’s allowing of deep vendor-carrier customizations coming back to bite them in the ass. It helped get things off the grou

I think this is, to some extent, Google’s allowing of deep vendor-carrier customizations coming back to bite them in the ass. It helped get things off the ground early on, but now that the product category is well defined the fact that “Android” can vary wildly between manufacturers and even devices has become a liability because that represents a form of unnecessary instability. Imagine if Windows differed significantly between Dell, HP, and Lenovo… people wouldn’t accept that, because the last thing anybody wants is to grapple with a bunch of technical differences because the laptop they have to use today is a different brand than they usually use. Android needs to become the “Windows” of the mobile world — standardized, boring, and predictable, but the biggest Android manufacturers won’t stand for that at this point, so that may not be possible.

acomjean 4y ago
You might have a point. I never had an android device before, but I have a tablet recently (Samsung). Its confusing there seems to be samsung stuff (bixby voice recognition, samsung login and store, some tv watching app) and the Google uite of apps. There is some overlap and since its a Samsung, they push that stuff. By enlarge I've ignored a lot of it, and it works great (even the pen with Krita!), but I can see the issue. Though for windows there was "crapware" that tends to be pre-installed with windows machines from various makers.
- canadianfella 4y ago
- hnburnsy 4y ago
  This works wonders on all that Samsung bloat... https://github.com/0x192/Universal-Android-Debloater https://github.com/0x192/Universal-Android-Debloater
SilverBirch 4y ago
This is absolutely right, the worst part of windows installs of the past? The weird crappy OEM software bundled onto new devices, Norton anti-virus trials etc. Now you've got the same thing with Android, but instead of a couple of difficult to shake trials, the entire operating system is dreck, crap from a hardware company that has put the worlds worst software engineers to the task of pimping out adware. Oh and because of the "value added" customization you're going to stop receiving critical security updates in 18 months. It's a weird sort of alternative universe where Google acts like Microsoft did, but Google isn't actulaly hegemonic in the OS space, so they actually suffer for their screw ups where Microsoft didn't.

acomjean 4y ago

You might have a point. I never had an android device before, but I have a tablet recently (Samsung). Its confusing there seems to be samsung stuff (bixby voice recognition, samsung login and store, some tv watching app) and the Google uite of apps. There is some overlap and since its a Samsung, they push that stuff. By enlarge I've ignored a lot of it, and it works great (even the pen with Krita!), but I can see the issue. Though for windows there was "crapware" that tends to be pre-installed with windows machines from various makers.

canadianfella 4y ago
hnburnsy 4y ago
This works wonders on all that Samsung bloat... https://github.com/0x192/Universal-Android-Debloater https://github.com/0x192/Universal-Android-Debloater

SilverBirch 4y ago

This is absolutely right, the worst part of windows installs of the past? The weird crappy OEM software bundled onto new devices, Norton anti-virus trials etc. Now you've got the same thing with Android, but instead of a couple of difficult to shake trials, the entire operating system is dreck, crap from a hardware company that has put the worlds worst software engineers to the task of pimping out adware. Oh and because of the "value added" customization you're going to stop receiving critical security updates in 18 months. It's a weird sort of alternative universe where Google acts like Microsoft did, but Google isn't actulaly hegemonic in the OS space, so they actually suffer for their screw ups where Microsoft didn't.