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From an IP perspective, do you think Android is legal? From Java, to multi touch, to design aesthetics. Is Google doing to the OS industry to what they did to t

From an IP perspective, do you think Android is legal? From Java, to multi touch, to design aesthetics. Is Google doing to the OS industry to what they did to the news paper and media industry where IP is considered 'obsolete'. And a silent emperor sits over the valley of chaos?

TechNewb 15y ago
Just google: is android legal?
ceejayoz 15y ago
> Is Google doing to the OS industry to what they did to the news paper and media industry where IP is considered 'obsolete'. Google didn't do much to the newspaper and media industry. They mostly screwed themselves, with some help from competitors like Craigslist in their profit centers like classifieds.
- TechNewb 15y ago
  I'm mainly playing devil's advocate here. But many, if not all, of google's empire is based around curating other people's IP, including Android. Much of the IP Google does have is kept server side, safe from competitors. But the legal issues are real, and I imagine many of the downrates of my previous comment was of either google developers or people within that eco-system. Why did Microsoft take so long to make Windows Phone, and why does it legally appear safe? And how is that related to Android? But don't get me wrong, I love Google for search and web apps, just not operating systems that, to at least me, seem slightly trojan in nature.
  - bryanlarsen 15y ago
    If Android is illegal, then so is Apple (Good artists copy, great artists steal) and Microsoft (embrace, extend, extinguish). If your product contains software, then chances are that it infringes on many patents.
    - TechNewb 15y ago
      It would have been interesting to see if Android turned out the way it did, if Google's CEO was not on the Apple board. I'm not implying anything, other than that I find that really interesting. There are so many little things about Android like that, that this article also leaves out.
      - Kylekramer 15y ago
        You can just come out and say what you think, no need to hide behind "finding that interesting" and "devil's advocate". I happen to disagree that Android/Google in general steals IP, but it is better to say what you mean to have a real discussion.
        TechNewb 15y ago
        Well I find that the Microsoft 'embrace, extend, extinguish' sounds more like Google today. When was the last time Gmail had introduced innovative features, there is still much improvement to be done. Chrome browser is by far the best, but when they get the market share, I imagine we will see improvements and innovations come to a slow as well. But sure, let's talk about how Eric Schmidt was the Apple board during the development of the iPhone. That is fascinating. How could that not have influenced the only competition to the iPhone. That seems suspicious to me, as no other company besides Google anticipated it. So let's talk about the design similarities between Android and iPhone. These topics are fascinating. So Microsoft, Apple, and Oracle are all claiming that Android violates their products, while Google, before this, had no patents regarding OS. That is also fascinating. The only reason why Android is 'open source' is to make it more difficult for litigation. And I don't think a company that develop's open source should be able to place ads on it, as to me, that is still 'selling' the software.
        feor 15y ago
        >And I don't think a company that develop's open source should be able to place ads on it, as to me, that is still 'selling' the software. Free speech, not free beer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre

TechNewb 15y ago

Just google: is android legal?

ceejayoz 15y ago

> Is Google doing to the OS industry to what they did to the news paper and media industry where IP is considered 'obsolete'. Google didn't do much to the newspaper and media industry. They mostly screwed themselves, with some help from competitors like Craigslist in their profit centers like classifieds.

TechNewb 15y ago
I'm mainly playing devil's advocate here. But many, if not all, of google's empire is based around curating other people's IP, including Android. Much of the IP Google does have is kept server side, safe from competitors. But the legal issues are real, and I imagine many of the downrates of my previous comment was of either google developers or people within that eco-system. Why did Microsoft take so long to make Windows Phone, and why does it legally appear safe? And how is that related to Android? But don't get me wrong, I love Google for search and web apps, just not operating systems that, to at least me, seem slightly trojan in nature.
- bryanlarsen 15y ago
  If Android is illegal, then so is Apple (Good artists copy, great artists steal) and Microsoft (embrace, extend, extinguish). If your product contains software, then chances are that it infringes on many patents.
  - TechNewb 15y ago
    It would have been interesting to see if Android turned out the way it did, if Google's CEO was not on the Apple board. I'm not implying anything, other than that I find that really interesting. There are so many little things about Android like that, that this article also leaves out.
    - Kylekramer 15y ago
      You can just come out and say what you think, no need to hide behind "finding that interesting" and "devil's advocate". I happen to disagree that Android/Google in general steals IP, but it is better to say what you mean to have a real discussion.
      - TechNewb 15y ago
        Well I find that the Microsoft 'embrace, extend, extinguish' sounds more like Google today. When was the last time Gmail had introduced innovative features, there is still much improvement to be done. Chrome browser is by far the best, but when they get the market share, I imagine we will see improvements and innovations come to a slow as well. But sure, let's talk about how Eric Schmidt was the Apple board during the development of the iPhone. That is fascinating. How could that not have influenced the only competition to the iPhone. That seems suspicious to me, as no other company besides Google anticipated it. So let's talk about the design similarities between Android and iPhone. These topics are fascinating. So Microsoft, Apple, and Oracle are all claiming that Android violates their products, while Google, before this, had no patents regarding OS. That is also fascinating. The only reason why Android is 'open source' is to make it more difficult for litigation. And I don't think a company that develop's open source should be able to place ads on it, as to me, that is still 'selling' the software.
        feor 15y ago
        >And I don't think a company that develop's open source should be able to place ads on it, as to me, that is still 'selling' the software. Free speech, not free beer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre