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I'm pretty sure this was what Obama attempted (basically universal coverage for life threatening scenarios) and it was pretty much killed on the vine. There ar

I'm pretty sure this was what Obama attempted (basically universal coverage for life threatening scenarios) and it was pretty much killed on the vine. There are many individuals who are pretty healthy and for whom high deductible plans are sufficient, but that does not apply to those with chronic health issues (and ironically, those with chronic health issues often have trouble maintaining employment, which is honestly pretty funny in a macabre way of maximizing suffering). I think the issue is that the clarity of what is minor and what is life and death is unknown until diagnosis has occurred. Additionally we still have a situation where if you have a pain in your arm and are uncovered you're in a pretty rough spot. I guess faking a car accident to get your care on someone's car insurance is a solution... but I'm not really sure that scales to an entire nation

phpisthebest 4y ago
>Additionally we still have a situation where if you have a pain in your arm and are uncovered you're in a pretty rough spot. Correct, and I believe that market forces will reduce the costs there by making health choices economical. Walmart tried to get into the market of providing basic health care clinic at their stores. They dropped the program because the regulation were so over bearing even they could not make it profitable. The root of the high costs is government... However at the heart of this is the underlying debate of if healthcare is a right. People that believe it is reject the idea of profiting off healthcare so anything that would allow for profits is viewed as wrong. Ironically many of these same people have no problems with mandating everyone get a COVID Vaccine that is making Pfizer, Moderna, and other billions in profit I only support the concept of negative rights, so you in that context you should have the right to seek healthcare from the provider of your choice free from government regulations, but I do not believe the government or anyone has the duty to provide you with care. Under that system of rights the best method to provide healthcare for the most people and the lowest possible price and highest quality is a market.
- SQueeeeeL 4y ago
  >I only support the concept of negative rights, so you in that context you should have the right to seek healthcare from the provider of your choice free from government regulations, but I do not believe the government or anyone has the duty to provide you with care. That makes sense with your positions, and I don't view long debates on fundamental positions to be productive on the Internet, ask not what your country can do for you and all that. I do hope life is always good to you and you'll never be in a position where you'd be left without access to care for an extended period; that gnawing fear of going bankrupt from your own body does terrible things to people.

phpisthebest 4y ago

>Additionally we still have a situation where if you have a pain in your arm and are uncovered you're in a pretty rough spot. Correct, and I believe that market forces will reduce the costs there by making health choices economical. Walmart tried to get into the market of providing basic health care clinic at their stores. They dropped the program because the regulation were so over bearing even they could not make it profitable. The root of the high costs is government... However at the heart of this is the underlying debate of if healthcare is a right. People that believe it is reject the idea of profiting off healthcare so anything that would allow for profits is viewed as wrong. Ironically many of these same people have no problems with mandating everyone get a COVID Vaccine that is making Pfizer, Moderna, and other billions in profit I only support the concept of negative rights, so you in that context you should have the right to seek healthcare from the provider of your choice free from government regulations, but I do not believe the government or anyone has the duty to provide you with care. Under that system of rights the best method to provide healthcare for the most people and the lowest possible price and highest quality is a market.

SQueeeeeL 4y ago
>I only support the concept of negative rights, so you in that context you should have the right to seek healthcare from the provider of your choice free from government regulations, but I do not believe the government or anyone has the duty to provide you with care. That makes sense with your positions, and I don't view long debates on fundamental positions to be productive on the Internet, ask not what your country can do for you and all that. I do hope life is always good to you and you'll never be in a position where you'd be left without access to care for an extended period; that gnawing fear of going bankrupt from your own body does terrible things to people.