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> Testing was conducted by Apple in September 2022 using preproduction iPad (10th generation) systems with the Apple A14 Bionic chip, as well as production Medi

> Testing was conducted by Apple in September 2022 using preproduction iPad (10th generation) systems with the Apple A14 Bionic chip, as well as production MediaTek MT8768N-based Android tablet systems with the latest version of Android 11 available at the time of testing. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mediatek-MT8768-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.494535.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mediatek-MT8768-Processor-Benc... > The MediatekMT8768 is an entry level ARM SoC for smartphones (mainly Android based) and tablets that was introduced in early 2020. Hahah, I can’t believe they actually made this comparison.

bioemerl 4y ago
Similar price. Fair comparison.
- abainbridge 4y ago
  Here's an Android Tablet with that chip for £99 ($88 at current exchange rate). https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/tcl-tab-10s-32gb-10.2-inch-wi-fi-grey-tablet-9081x-2clcgb11/version.asp?srsltid=AR5OiO1_4qE8OtDM4OQR3HdTuljnr12pmo67XipOYEB2JrQFmI4bZ_3NjLs#!#specs https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/tcl-tab-10s-32gb-10.2-inch-w...
  - Macha 4y ago
    Minor correction: 99 GBP = 111 USD, think you used the exchange rate the wrong way round. The pound has fallen a lot of late, but it's not quite at parity with the dollar
    - abainbridge 4y ago
      Gah.
- m45t3r 4y ago
  No it is not. A Xiaomi Mi Pad 5 for example is still cheaper than the newly announced iPad (US$399) and uses a much more powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon 860 CPU. A14 is still 1.5~2x[1] faster than this CPU, but using a really low budget CPU for comparison is really unfair here. [1]: https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-860-vs-apple-a14-bionic https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-86...
coder543 4y ago
Taking the footnote out of context makes it look sillier than it is. Here is the actual quote where the footnote was used: > This makes the new iPad up to 5x faster than the best-selling Android tablet, and for users looking to upgrade from a device like iPad (7th generation), they will see up to 3x improvement in overall performance with the new iPad. The footnote also mentions this immediately after your quote ends, which you presumably left out because it would have made the theme of the above quote more obvious and less confusing: > Best-selling systems are based on publicly available sales data over the last 12 months. If Apple clearly states they are comparing to "the best-selling Android tablet", and they do, then I don't see what the problem is. They didn't say "compared to the fastest Android tablet" and then whip out the old MT8768 or some nonsense like that. The reader is welcome to disregard the comparison, but the comparison isn't misleading. The basic iPad has surely been Apple's best selling iPad for a long time, so that is Apple's point of comparison for this one. If they wanted to compare absolute performance against the best the Android tablet market has to offer, they would use the iPad Pro with the M2 chip, not the basic iPad. I would also point out that anecdotally, I don't know a single person with an Android tablet that cost $200 or more. I know plenty of people with Android tablets that cost way less than $200. Most people reading Apple's comparison who have an Android tablet will be trying to understand why they should pay the premium for an iPad instead of buying another $100 tablet, and being 5x faster is a logical hook. People with a $400+ Android tablet are unlikely to be considering a basic iPad, since they've clearly already made up their mind.
- wiseowise 4y ago
  > Most people reading Apple's comparison who have an Android tablet will be trying to understand why they should pay the premium for an iPad instead of buying another $100 tablet, and being 5x faster is a logical hook. People with a $400+ Android tablet are unlikely to be considering a basic iPad, since they've clearly already made up their mind. No, most people reading Apple's comparison will think that it is 5 times faster than fastest Android tablet and this is exactly what they're aiming for. How many non-developers or non-hardware enthusiasts do you expect to actually read what is best selling Android table CPU? None, they'll think that iPad is 5x faster than Galaxy tablet.
Macha 4y ago
Is Android even still the competition? The android tablet market has been dead for a while. Arguably makes more sense to compare to Windows tablets at this point.

bioemerl 4y ago

Similar price. Fair comparison.

abainbridge 4y ago
Here's an Android Tablet with that chip for £99 ($88 at current exchange rate). https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/tcl-tab-10s-32gb-10.2-inch-wi-fi-grey-tablet-9081x-2clcgb11/version.asp?srsltid=AR5OiO1_4qE8OtDM4OQR3HdTuljnr12pmo67XipOYEB2JrQFmI4bZ_3NjLs#!#specs https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/tcl-tab-10s-32gb-10.2-inch-w...
- Macha 4y ago
  Minor correction: 99 GBP = 111 USD, think you used the exchange rate the wrong way round. The pound has fallen a lot of late, but it's not quite at parity with the dollar
  - abainbridge 4y ago
    Gah.
m45t3r 4y ago
No it is not. A Xiaomi Mi Pad 5 for example is still cheaper than the newly announced iPad (US$399) and uses a much more powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon 860 CPU. A14 is still 1.5~2x[1] faster than this CPU, but using a really low budget CPU for comparison is really unfair here. [1]: https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-860-vs-apple-a14-bionic https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-86...

coder543 4y ago

Taking the footnote out of context makes it look sillier than it is. Here is the actual quote where the footnote was used: > This makes the new iPad up to 5x faster than the best-selling Android tablet, and for users looking to upgrade from a device like iPad (7th generation), they will see up to 3x improvement in overall performance with the new iPad. The footnote also mentions this immediately after your quote ends, which you presumably left out because it would have made the theme of the above quote more obvious and less confusing: > Best-selling systems are based on publicly available sales data over the last 12 months. If Apple clearly states they are comparing to "the best-selling Android tablet", and they do, then I don't see what the problem is. They didn't say "compared to the fastest Android tablet" and then whip out the old MT8768 or some nonsense like that. The reader is welcome to disregard the comparison, but the comparison isn't misleading. The basic iPad has surely been Apple's best selling iPad for a long time, so that is Apple's point of comparison for this one. If they wanted to compare absolute performance against the best the Android tablet market has to offer, they would use the iPad Pro with the M2 chip, not the basic iPad. I would also point out that anecdotally, I don't know a single person with an Android tablet that cost $200 or more. I know plenty of people with Android tablets that cost way less than $200. Most people reading Apple's comparison who have an Android tablet will be trying to understand why they should pay the premium for an iPad instead of buying another $100 tablet, and being 5x faster is a logical hook. People with a $400+ Android tablet are unlikely to be considering a basic iPad, since they've clearly already made up their mind.

wiseowise 4y ago
> Most people reading Apple's comparison who have an Android tablet will be trying to understand why they should pay the premium for an iPad instead of buying another $100 tablet, and being 5x faster is a logical hook. People with a $400+ Android tablet are unlikely to be considering a basic iPad, since they've clearly already made up their mind. No, most people reading Apple's comparison will think that it is 5 times faster than fastest Android tablet and this is exactly what they're aiming for. How many non-developers or non-hardware enthusiasts do you expect to actually read what is best selling Android table CPU? None, they'll think that iPad is 5x faster than Galaxy tablet.

Macha 4y ago

Is Android even still the competition? The android tablet market has been dead for a while. Arguably makes more sense to compare to Windows tablets at this point.