>they probably cross policy lines and could be excluded under illegal. I’m confused by this part. What if your company does not have a policy against foot rubs

>they probably cross policy lines and could be excluded under illegal. I’m confused by this part. What if your company does not have a policy against foot rubs or babysitting? For example there are big wellness companies like, for example Goop, that might reasonably have foot rubs, babysitting and software engineering in the same building. >every thing you listed has people that get paid to do exactly those things I agree. There are people whose job it is to babysit and provide massages. If you heard your babysitter say that it’s reasonable to demand that they engineer software because you pay them so much, would that make sense to you? edit: The job you describe yourself as doing seems akin to personal/executive assistant, which is a fine job! I worked as an EA for years. I wouldn’t call myself an SWE if I worked as an EA. edit 2: After re-reading, this makes even less sense. If your friendly boss “Dan” insists that you clean the bathroom, you’re happy to do it because it makes you a better person? It makes ole’ “Dan”’s life easier to insist that an engineer being paid engineering wages do minimum wage work? Couldn’t Dan make his life even easier by hiring a cleaner for an hour a week for a fraction of what your time is worth? It seems like Dan would both save money and have talented workers spending more time being productive. That’s a win-win! Unless of course Dan likes exerting power for the hell of it, then it’s a loss for him. If Dan liked to make sure his employees should be infinitely deferential and constantly reminded that they are lucky to work for him, it would make sense to insist (not ask, it’s insist according to you) that you do menial work that literally anyone could do. Friendly ole Dan, such a nice guy that he reminds you to polish the Sword of Damocles every Friday. It is such an inconvenience for him when it gets dusty.