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Thanks for this. I see that perspective and from my experience in larger tech corps it jibes. I'm still trying to reconcile it with the CHIPs thing. Intel on

Thanks for this. I see that perspective and from my experience in larger tech corps it jibes. I'm still trying to reconcile it with the CHIPs thing. Intel on one hand is admittedly bloated and inefficient, and so is choosing to reduce its headcount and therefore bandwidth to do work. So what is the CHIPs money going to. Typically when you invest in something like this you are buying people's time to do the work and also materials and supplies to build the stuff like factories, etc. So if we are lowering headcount it's not going to labor. I suspect as you say it's more about changing worker types, like getting rid of skillsets they don't need so they can hire those they do like people to build semi plants here. So, in my mind, the only way it adds up is if Intel goes on a big hiring spree soon. Otherwise, where did the money go? We can buy equipment to build plants but who builds them?

CoastalCoder 4y ago
I don't have any insider info on this, but here's my guess: Gelsinger thinks x86's days are numbered. So Intel's historical moat of designing and manufacturing x86 chips is going away. So now it's more compelling to treat design and manufacturing as separate business concerns: - For potential foundry customers, it reduces fears that Intel will give higher priority to fab'ing its own chips. - It frees Intel's chip designers to design chips without needing to assume they'll be built at Intel's foundries. E.g., they can design chips for TSMC's process if that would result in a better product. And given all these factors, I suspect Gelsinger and the Intel board of directors are planning to separate the design and manufacturing functions into separate businesses. (Either practically speaking by limiting their interaction within Intel, or literally by making them separate companies.)

CoastalCoder 4y ago

I don't have any insider info on this, but here's my guess: Gelsinger thinks x86's days are numbered. So Intel's historical moat of designing and manufacturing x86 chips is going away. So now it's more compelling to treat design and manufacturing as separate business concerns: - For potential foundry customers, it reduces fears that Intel will give higher priority to fab'ing its own chips. - It frees Intel's chip designers to design chips without needing to assume they'll be built at Intel's foundries. E.g., they can design chips for TSMC's process if that would result in a better product. And given all these factors, I suspect Gelsinger and the Intel board of directors are planning to separate the design and manufacturing functions into separate businesses. (Either practically speaking by limiting their interaction within Intel, or literally by making them separate companies.)