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It's all about what those hobbies lifestyle is. My wife and I made the opposite move. We had a house, a life, in the suburbs for more than a decade and now ha

It's all about what those hobbies lifestyle is. My wife and I made the opposite move. We had a house, a life, in the suburbs for more than a decade and now happily live in a 1 bedroom loft in SOMA. I would say that for our life, we live in a smaller (it's still pretty big, and not actually that expensive) in the city exactly because of the lifestyle/hobbies/family life we enjoy as a result. It's like the city is your living room.

giantg2 4y ago
True about the hobby types. I still think it generally applies for the live-work setup though. Mostly because it seems most people don't like their jobs and want a disconnect between their spaces. Also because of professional appearances etc influencing your off-hours activities if your coworkers are watching. Even though work and housing aren't in the same buildings, military housing can provide a good lens into this.
- iancmceachern 4y ago
  Yeah, in either case healthy boundaries are important.
- nordsieck 4y ago
  > military housing can provide a good lens into this. IMO, that's not really fair - at least for barracks. And I don't really think that "married" house style housing really applies since it's a suburb that just happens to be inside the base. 1. You don't own your barracks room. You generally don't have any ability to change furniture, appliances, paint, etc. 2. Barracks typically offer little privacy - there are periodic inspections, limits on guests, etc. 3. Military culture is a bit weird - there is often a very strong drinking culture, etc. It's not clear to me that the same social forces exist for a civilian live-work building. 4. The barracks are sometimes raided for off-hours extra duty. This downside doesn't really exist in the same way for civilians.
  - willcipriano 4y ago
    > The barracks are sometimes raided for off-hours extra duty. This downside doesn't really exist in the same way for civilians. Yet. "Ron, according to the security system there was movement inside of your company dorm room last night at 8PM when we emailed you. Since you were just at home anyway why did you decide to not be a team player?"
  - giantg2 4y ago
    Yeah, I'm not talking about barracks, but more like the family apartments or houses. The main issue I see crossing over in either civilian or military life with this setup is that everyone in that "suburb" works for the same employer. There can certainly be issues where personal problems become career problems and vice-versa. At least military housing is segregated by grade, but the civilian side could have you living right next to your boss. Too bad if they don't like something you do. "The barracks are sometimes raided for off-hours extra duty." Unless you work in IT and are on-call or the on-call doesn't answer (not fully the same, but still...).

giantg2 4y ago

True about the hobby types. I still think it generally applies for the live-work setup though. Mostly because it seems most people don't like their jobs and want a disconnect between their spaces. Also because of professional appearances etc influencing your off-hours activities if your coworkers are watching. Even though work and housing aren't in the same buildings, military housing can provide a good lens into this.

iancmceachern 4y ago
Yeah, in either case healthy boundaries are important.
nordsieck 4y ago
> military housing can provide a good lens into this. IMO, that's not really fair - at least for barracks. And I don't really think that "married" house style housing really applies since it's a suburb that just happens to be inside the base. 1. You don't own your barracks room. You generally don't have any ability to change furniture, appliances, paint, etc. 2. Barracks typically offer little privacy - there are periodic inspections, limits on guests, etc. 3. Military culture is a bit weird - there is often a very strong drinking culture, etc. It's not clear to me that the same social forces exist for a civilian live-work building. 4. The barracks are sometimes raided for off-hours extra duty. This downside doesn't really exist in the same way for civilians.
- willcipriano 4y ago
  > The barracks are sometimes raided for off-hours extra duty. This downside doesn't really exist in the same way for civilians. Yet. "Ron, according to the security system there was movement inside of your company dorm room last night at 8PM when we emailed you. Since you were just at home anyway why did you decide to not be a team player?"
- giantg2 4y ago
  Yeah, I'm not talking about barracks, but more like the family apartments or houses. The main issue I see crossing over in either civilian or military life with this setup is that everyone in that "suburb" works for the same employer. There can certainly be issues where personal problems become career problems and vice-versa. At least military housing is segregated by grade, but the civilian side could have you living right next to your boss. Too bad if they don't like something you do. "The barracks are sometimes raided for off-hours extra duty." Unless you work in IT and are on-call or the on-call doesn't answer (not fully the same, but still...).