3 ms·

Is there reason to believe "long covid" is even a thing? Is covid so significantly different from many diseases that it has about 50 various "long" symptoms tha

by tjs8rj 4y ago

Is there reason to believe "long covid" is even a thing? Is covid so significantly different from many diseases that it has about 50 various "long" symptoms that run the gamut from brain fog to change in taste to a rash and now to hair loss? I do notice that there's significant baggage associated with covid, and a large number of people terrified of it, along with most of these symptoms being neurological (and the rest self-diagnosed). It's also politically convenient to push "sure the disease itself is like a bad cold, but you'll be permanently damaged in various unforeseeable ways!". I'm 3x vaxxed myself, I've also had covid to be clear. All the evidence I've seen about long covid is anecdotes. Is there any hard data to substantiate?

yamtaddle 4y ago
I've suspected the whole time that a bunch of viruses trigger "long [whatever]" symptoms of some kind for some people who get them, and Covid's just where all the attention is. People get a normal cold or the flu and are still a little foggy a year later, maybe they don't connect it to the virus, you know?
OrangeMonkey 4y ago
I think your skepticism here is good and smart. I had the same. Anyone who relies only on self-reported issues has the ability to have general axienty increases cause 'covid associated' behaviors. That said, neurological covers more than just self-reported concerns like this. Take a look at this paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02001-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02001-z You can ignore a lot of these (and I do) as they are self reported, but some are not. Consider Cerebrovascular disorders or some of the others. There appears to be an association that is non-subjected non-self-reported between people who got covid and people who did not. The study makes NO statement that can be attributed to people who got covid with/without the vax because the study was started/concluded prior to the vax being in general circulation amongst a high number of the population. So yes, I think "long covid" has a large amount of general anxiety - but not this much. I think its likely we will find this is 1/2 our brains just making up symptoms and 1/2 actual legit f'ing scary problems. I hope I'm wrong. This study implies I'm not. Cheers.

by tjs8rj 4y ago

yamtaddle 4y ago

I've suspected the whole time that a bunch of viruses trigger "long [whatever]" symptoms of some kind for some people who get them, and Covid's just where all the attention is. People get a normal cold or the flu and are still a little foggy a year later, maybe they don't connect it to the virus, you know?

OrangeMonkey 4y ago

I think your skepticism here is good and smart. I had the same. Anyone who relies only on self-reported issues has the ability to have general axienty increases cause 'covid associated' behaviors. That said, neurological covers more than just self-reported concerns like this. Take a look at this paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02001-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02001-z You can ignore a lot of these (and I do) as they are self reported, but some are not. Consider Cerebrovascular disorders or some of the others. There appears to be an association that is non-subjected non-self-reported between people who got covid and people who did not. The study makes NO statement that can be attributed to people who got covid with/without the vax because the study was started/concluded prior to the vax being in general circulation amongst a high number of the population. So yes, I think "long covid" has a large amount of general anxiety - but not this much. I think its likely we will find this is 1/2 our brains just making up symptoms and 1/2 actual legit f'ing scary problems. I hope I'm wrong. This study implies I'm not. Cheers.