> doing Windows programming with OWL in 1993 was quite delightful I never used the C++ version OWL (though i do have Borland C++ 5 around here, perhaps i'll tr

> doing Windows programming with OWL in 1993 was quite delightful I never used the C++ version OWL (though i do have Borland C++ 5 around here, perhaps i'll try it for fun at some point), but the Turbo Pascal version of OWL (which i also really used but had a brush with - and some docs) wasn't really that great - more of a helper library for the underlying Windows API, needing to know the underlying API, in practice not very different than MFC (also more of a helper library to make using Win16/Win32 easier than something to let you ignore it). VCL was by long long far the best API/Framework (and in some ways it still is, though FCL/LCL is better since it is richer and also crossplatform). FWIW i did a partial recreation of Turbo Pascal OWL in Free Pascal some years ago[0]. It doesn't have much of a practical use though (unless you want to make some small GUI EXE files in Free Pascal) since i think even Borland abandoned the Pascal version of OWL and i doubt many people used it. [0] http://runtimeterror.com/tech/fowl/ http://runtimeterror.com/tech/fowl/