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> Danish research currently indicates that those who have taken the mRNA vaccines are at greater risk of all-cause mortality My first suspicion is that those w

> Danish research currently indicates that those who have taken the mRNA vaccines are at greater risk of all-cause mortality My first suspicion is that those who have more contact with medicine tend to have greater all-cause mortality because they probably have a reason to have contact with medicine - there's tons of correlation and it's hard to tease out causation. Vaccines certainly have tradeoffs and in the US at least there are mechanisms in place to try and offset those https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Inj... What's new is the politicization of vaccines, and particularly in one American political party, but I suspect the math (including the new mRNA vaccines) is as it ever was; vaccines are a huge net win for public health. Generally one thing I've noticed about medicine could probably be summed up as - it's really complicated, there are trade-offs to nearly every decision, and you eventually die anyway.

mizzack 4y ago
This is misinformation. COVID-19 vaccines aren't covered by the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program [0], but the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) [1] But wait, there's more! > Will the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program provide compensation to individuals injured by COVID-19 vaccines? [2] > ...For a category of vaccines to be covered by the VICP, the category of vaccines must be recommended for routine administration to children or pregnant women by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, subject to an excise tax by federal law, and added to the VICP by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. No COVID-19 vaccines currently meet this criteria. So, no, there is not a mechanism in place to offset those. [0] https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation [1] https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp [2] https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/faq https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/faq
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Fair enough, I did not mean to imply that it would be covered; I don't know those details. All I'm saying is that it has been recognized for sometime that there are vaccine injuries, but the net benefits of them to public health have been large.
  - mizzack 4y ago
    Agreed, it's a valuable program. Just not (currently) relevant to the discussion of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.

mizzack 4y ago

This is misinformation. COVID-19 vaccines aren't covered by the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program [0], but the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) [1] But wait, there's more! > Will the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program provide compensation to individuals injured by COVID-19 vaccines? [2] > ...For a category of vaccines to be covered by the VICP, the category of vaccines must be recommended for routine administration to children or pregnant women by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, subject to an excise tax by federal law, and added to the VICP by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. No COVID-19 vaccines currently meet this criteria. So, no, there is not a mechanism in place to offset those. [0] https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation [1] https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp [2] https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/faq https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/faq

hotpotamus 4y ago
Fair enough, I did not mean to imply that it would be covered; I don't know those details. All I'm saying is that it has been recognized for sometime that there are vaccine injuries, but the net benefits of them to public health have been large.
- mizzack 4y ago
  Agreed, it's a valuable program. Just not (currently) relevant to the discussion of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.