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Another obvious cause for the increase in heart disease related deaths which you ignored is that level of treatment and detection of heart disease was reduced d

by tssva 4y ago

Another obvious cause for the increase in heart disease related deaths which you ignored is that level of treatment and detection of heart disease was reduced due to people less regularly seeking medical care during the pandemic.

saiya-jin 4y ago
How did it look in US during height of covid? I would definitely agree in say most of Europe where people including doctors got properly shit scared, and medical care was... lacking to be polite. Very bad time to be in situation to require medical help. But I had the impression that US (maybe apart from NY) was trying to keep business as usual as much as possible.
- bobkazamakis 4y ago
  >But I had the impression that US (maybe apart from NY) was trying to keep business as usual as much as possible. More or less a lot of companies took some handouts from the government while half the country insisted it was a demonrat hoax and the others stayed home to try and stop having out hospitals blown the fuck out.
- atlasunshrugged 4y ago
  There was a strong effect on medical services and the willingness or ability to use them for non-covid illnesses during the height of the pandemic. Many people who took Covid seriously locked down and may have put off getting routine examinations or even going to the doctor when they should have because of fear of exposure (my parents for example, who while in a Republican area where most people were not very concerned about covid were this way and many other people especially in major blue cities would do the same) and on the other side, people in areas that may have been skeptical of covid may have been turned off because of reduced or near zero service while local hospitals dealt with the effects of covid on the local community.
- phalangion 4y ago
  Routine checkups and other non-urgent care was frequently postponed or canceled, especially during the bigger waves when hospitals and ICUs were at risk of being overwhelmed.
- wil421 4y ago
  It wasnt exactly lacking but immediately after COVID really started all non-critical office visits were cancelled. Lots of elective and non-critical outpatient procedures were canceled and impossible to reschedule for months. Even now it can take months to schedule a regular checkup. Staffing issues and long waits at the emergency room are still common. If you’re about to die there’s not going to be a wait. A lot of people, including myself, waited a long time for our yearly (or bi yearly if you’re older) visit. I’m sure a lot of older people could have done some preventative stuff to prevent a heart attack. Like getting a stint put in if they had an irregular heart beat, had this happened to a family member in their late 80s.
- issa 4y ago
  Short of having some acute emergency, it was for all intents and purposes IMPOSSIBLE to get a doctor's appointment of any sort through the height of the pandemic. At least that was my family's experience in Los Angeles.

by tssva 4y ago

saiya-jin 4y ago

How did it look in US during height of covid? I would definitely agree in say most of Europe where people including doctors got properly shit scared, and medical care was... lacking to be polite. Very bad time to be in situation to require medical help. But I had the impression that US (maybe apart from NY) was trying to keep business as usual as much as possible.

bobkazamakis 4y ago
>But I had the impression that US (maybe apart from NY) was trying to keep business as usual as much as possible. More or less a lot of companies took some handouts from the government while half the country insisted it was a demonrat hoax and the others stayed home to try and stop having out hospitals blown the fuck out.
atlasunshrugged 4y ago
There was a strong effect on medical services and the willingness or ability to use them for non-covid illnesses during the height of the pandemic. Many people who took Covid seriously locked down and may have put off getting routine examinations or even going to the doctor when they should have because of fear of exposure (my parents for example, who while in a Republican area where most people were not very concerned about covid were this way and many other people especially in major blue cities would do the same) and on the other side, people in areas that may have been skeptical of covid may have been turned off because of reduced or near zero service while local hospitals dealt with the effects of covid on the local community.
phalangion 4y ago
Routine checkups and other non-urgent care was frequently postponed or canceled, especially during the bigger waves when hospitals and ICUs were at risk of being overwhelmed.
wil421 4y ago
It wasnt exactly lacking but immediately after COVID really started all non-critical office visits were cancelled. Lots of elective and non-critical outpatient procedures were canceled and impossible to reschedule for months. Even now it can take months to schedule a regular checkup. Staffing issues and long waits at the emergency room are still common. If you’re about to die there’s not going to be a wait. A lot of people, including myself, waited a long time for our yearly (or bi yearly if you’re older) visit. I’m sure a lot of older people could have done some preventative stuff to prevent a heart attack. Like getting a stint put in if they had an irregular heart beat, had this happened to a family member in their late 80s.
issa 4y ago
Short of having some acute emergency, it was for all intents and purposes IMPOSSIBLE to get a doctor's appointment of any sort through the height of the pandemic. At least that was my family's experience in Los Angeles.