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With Microsoft and the ads in the start menu, you now get tracking right of the box! if you think, that vpn protects you from anything, i have a bridge to sell

With Microsoft and the ads in the start menu, you now get tracking right of the box! if you think, that vpn protects you from anything, i have a bridge to sell you. Oh and lets not get started about a lot of propriary software that does exactly the same. Or how apps that you use once a month need background updates. I have a customer that uses a 10 year old inventory system, that came to me with the problems that it "sometimes freezes" for a couple of seconds. It does that when their "tracking server" takes a couple of seconds to process the request and once that is done, he has peace for 15 minutes. Guess what the software is not doing in those 15 minutes? Also please dont get me started on IP Cams, im conviced that if there is a a tech i like to use, someone alreday installed some redicoulus metrics system into it and calls that "customer insight".

bheadmaster 4y ago
> if you think, that vpn protects you from anything, i have a bridge to sell you. What is the thing with the "I have a bridge to sell you" meme going on? Is that a new synonym for "you're wrong but I don't feel like explaining why"?
- wl 4y ago
  It means "you're gullible." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker
  - brewdad 4y ago
    I always heard it as "some swampland in Florida to sell you". Given recent events, the statement has proven true but probably should be retired as it feels a bit insensitive now.
- jhoelzel 4y ago
  the other commenter is correct i was implying on George C. Parker selling the brooklyn bridge =) Also i picked this up in my circles, im sorry if it was not clear right away. I also feel like ""you're wrong but I don't feel like explaining why"" is a bit harsh, because what i mean is that your ip address is not even used in most high end tracking softwares anymore. There are much more elaborate ways to track you and everything you use.
- standup 4y ago
  I don't think that VPNs are any good at protecting privacy nowadays... Maybe Tor or I2P just might work. Team Cymru are collecting flow records from backbone routers worldwide, with the permission of the ISPs. They claim to be able to trace through VPNs by simply looking at the timing of flows. https://www.team-cymru.com/pure-signal-recon-threat-hunting-and-threat-reconnaissance https://www.team-cymru.com/pure-signal-recon-threat-hunting-... Perhaps we should try experimenting with satellite or radio data broadcasting? Just send highly compressed text to make it low bandwidth? Then anyone can receive the stream without intelligence agencies from finding out. Ever. Assuming it's a receiver that cannot physically be connected to a network. Bye bye NSA and GCHQ surveillance... For good this time. By the way, here's an example of a satellite data broadcasting system that's actually in operation: https://blocksat-reader.herokuapp.com/ https://blocksat-reader.herokuapp.com/
  - jhoelzel 4y ago
    Thank you for that! in my younger days I imagined a system like this would come sonner rather than later. I also dont believe that there is really an incetive for corporations to keep the web "free" (as in freedom) and while - A LOT - of people are hyping the crypto scene or TOR as solutions, I have come to think, that we soon simply have identiy tokens (on cards or phones or usb sticks) and that identity will be provided not requested. Its what the movie studios wanted since the 90s, its actually what your government wants too! I finish with the thought that blocking the api for adblockers on chrome is only the beginning. And yeah, firefox also sends home a lot of data. We as programmers need to find solutions to this. It would be organized open source, but without proper funding, noone is going to be organized
- i_like_apis 4y ago
  It’s not a new saying. It means “you are stupid, and clearly gullible”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker

bheadmaster 4y ago

> if you think, that vpn protects you from anything, i have a bridge to sell you. What is the thing with the "I have a bridge to sell you" meme going on? Is that a new synonym for "you're wrong but I don't feel like explaining why"?

wl 4y ago
It means "you're gullible." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker
- brewdad 4y ago
  I always heard it as "some swampland in Florida to sell you". Given recent events, the statement has proven true but probably should be retired as it feels a bit insensitive now.
jhoelzel 4y ago
the other commenter is correct i was implying on George C. Parker selling the brooklyn bridge =) Also i picked this up in my circles, im sorry if it was not clear right away. I also feel like ""you're wrong but I don't feel like explaining why"" is a bit harsh, because what i mean is that your ip address is not even used in most high end tracking softwares anymore. There are much more elaborate ways to track you and everything you use.
standup 4y ago
I don't think that VPNs are any good at protecting privacy nowadays... Maybe Tor or I2P just might work. Team Cymru are collecting flow records from backbone routers worldwide, with the permission of the ISPs. They claim to be able to trace through VPNs by simply looking at the timing of flows. https://www.team-cymru.com/pure-signal-recon-threat-hunting-and-threat-reconnaissance https://www.team-cymru.com/pure-signal-recon-threat-hunting-... Perhaps we should try experimenting with satellite or radio data broadcasting? Just send highly compressed text to make it low bandwidth? Then anyone can receive the stream without intelligence agencies from finding out. Ever. Assuming it's a receiver that cannot physically be connected to a network. Bye bye NSA and GCHQ surveillance... For good this time. By the way, here's an example of a satellite data broadcasting system that's actually in operation: https://blocksat-reader.herokuapp.com/ https://blocksat-reader.herokuapp.com/
- jhoelzel 4y ago
  Thank you for that! in my younger days I imagined a system like this would come sonner rather than later. I also dont believe that there is really an incetive for corporations to keep the web "free" (as in freedom) and while - A LOT - of people are hyping the crypto scene or TOR as solutions, I have come to think, that we soon simply have identiy tokens (on cards or phones or usb sticks) and that identity will be provided not requested. Its what the movie studios wanted since the 90s, its actually what your government wants too! I finish with the thought that blocking the api for adblockers on chrome is only the beginning. And yeah, firefox also sends home a lot of data. We as programmers need to find solutions to this. It would be organized open source, but without proper funding, noone is going to be organized
i_like_apis 4y ago
It’s not a new saying. It means “you are stupid, and clearly gullible”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker